Re: Workflow products

[David Regan]

Er..is this something new? MQSeries (the part I worked with in the past) is just a messaging system with  multi-platform support, noteably a lot of mainframe/mini support. I wasn't aware of workflow support in Forte either. I guess all of this stuff really depends on your definition of what workflow means.   -David    -----Original Message----- From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Javier Borrajo Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Workflow products We are begining to use Sun Fort� as the workflow development&runtime component for a Java application. We used Staffware in the past but were not happy with it since for instance you needed an special applet to build the UI.   Another interesting tool you may want to check is IBM MQSeries Workflow.   + Fort� supports an IIOP Gateway and we plan to use this to communicate the workflow engine and the Java applicaction logic. The IBM tool also supports IIOP. + Both support an XML interface for activity automation. + IBM has more sophisticated exception modeling features. + IBM uses MQSeries while Forte will use JMQ in a future release, it now uses HTTP which is nice but not reliable enough. + Forte is database neutral while IBM requires DB2 for workflow data, though you may use any other database for applicaction data.   Best regards       Javier Borrajo     www.tid.es -----Original Message----- From: Randy Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: viernes 12 de mayo de 2000 0:08 Subject: Re: Workflow products Proneel- GemStone/J integrates Verve in the Commerce Automation edition (in fact, Verve stores its data in GemStone).  Thus we offer the workflow/J2EE integration you mention - see http://www.gemstone.com for more info. Best Regards, Randy > -----Original Message----- > From: Proneel Guptan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:05 PM > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:      Workflow products > > Hi, > > We are looking to use workflow technologies to manage long running > business processes. However, a significant portion of our application > would still run in an EJB/JMS environment; we expect that workflow > activities would call into our session beans as part of the processing > of tasks and our beans would also call into the workflow to complete > or release tasks in a specific business process. > > The main criteria for us is (as expected) scalability and performance. > We would naturally be interested only in Java based workflow engines > preferably with a strong integration into EJB or JMS technologies. > > We are in the process of evaluating 2 products, Verve and jFlow > (a company that BEA recently purchased). > > We would be very interested to know of other java based workflow > products; we would like to hear from vendors and from users too, > if possible. Any user experiences on Verve and jFlow would also > be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > Proneel.