TIBCO's TIB/IntegrationManager1.0. Great built-in UML editor - let's one
define message and process flow diagram using UML. Also, one can define the
whole messaging data model using the UML editor. Supports EJB, Corba, etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Zerbe John W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Workflow products
MQ Workflow is the latest name for their old Flowmark (not sure of spelling)
product. It's a workflow engine that uses MQSeries as the transport layer.
John Zerbe - Mellon Bank
Information Technology Solutions - Middleware Team
Phone: 412-234-1048 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Regan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Workflow products
>
> Er..is this something new? MQSeries (the part I worked with in the past)
> is just a messaging system with multi-platform support, noteably a lot
> of mainframe/mini support. I wasn't aware of workflow support in
> Forte either. I guess all of this stuff really depends on your definition
> of what workflow means.
>
> -David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Javier Borrajo
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Workflow products
>
>
>
> We are begining to use Sun Fort� as the workflow development&runtime
> component
> for a Java application. We used Staffware in the past but were not
> happy with it
> since for instance you needed an special applet to build the UI.
>
> Another interesting tool you may want to check is IBM MQSeries
> Workflow.
>
> + Fort� supports an IIOP Gateway and we plan to use this to
> communicate the
> workflow engine and the Java applicaction logic. The IBM tool also
> supports IIOP.
> + Both support an XML interface for activity automation.
> + IBM has more sophisticated exception modeling features.
> + IBM uses MQSeries while Forte will use JMQ in a future release, it
> now uses HTTP
> which is nice but not reliable enough.
> + Forte is database neutral while IBM requires DB2 for workflow
> data, though you
> may use any other database for applicaction data.
>
> Best regards
>
> Javier Borrajo
> www.tid.es <http://www.tid.es>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Stafford < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Date: viernes 12 de mayo de 2000 0:08
> Subject: Re: Workflow products
>
>
> Proneel-
>
> GemStone/J integrates Verve in the Commerce Automation
> edition (in fact,
> Verve stores its data in GemStone). Thus we offer the
> workflow/J2EE
> integration you mention - see <http://www.gemstone.com> for
> more info.
>
> Best Regards,
> Randy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Proneel Guptan [ SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Workflow products
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are looking to use workflow technologies to manage long
> running
> > business processes. However, a significant portion of our
> application
> > would still run in an EJB/JMS environment; we expect that
> workflow
> > activities would call into our session beans as part of
> the processing
> > of tasks and our beans would also call into the workflow
> to complete
> > or release tasks in a specific business process.
> >
> > The main criteria for us is (as expected) scalability and
> performance.
> > We would naturally be interested only in Java based
> workflow engines
> > preferably with a strong integration into EJB or JMS
> technologies.
> >
> > We are in the process of evaluating 2 products, Verve and
> jFlow
> > (a company that BEA recently purchased).
> >
> > We would be very interested to know of other java based
> workflow
> > products; we would like to hear from vendors and from
> users too,
> > if possible. Any user experiences on Verve and jFlow would
> also
> > be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Proneel.
>
>
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