"Bhattacharyya, Ana" wrote:

> Hi
> I have evaluated Weblogic 5.0 and found it to be good. I have just gone
> through the documentation of IAS4.0 and found that as per the documentations
> and claims go it should be good also. But when I downloaded the stuff I
> found that it didnt have JMS in it as claimed in the documentation!!!

Indeed, but it will ship in a few weeks according to Inprise.

>
> Weblogic has JMS support in built in it.

Yeah, but they claim to support RMI-IIOP. The only problem is that they can't
propagate transaction and security contexts : how useful!!!

>
> Also I wanted to know whether IAS provides any O/R mapping support tool --
> weblogic dosent provide one.

I think WLS does support some OR mapping tools like TopLink. On the other hand,
their CMP support is a joke compared to IAS. It doesn't support chars,
BigDecimals, serializable Java objects and references to other beans. IAS
supports all that and even allows you to map a JavaBean's fields to multiple
columns.

> My management requires that we use CMP and we
> dont bother ourselves with any database related issues.

Then go IAS.

> Something like we
> just define the Entity beans in an object model and the server takes care of
> creating the table and doing the persistence stuff

IAS also supports automatic table creation. However, I would just use this as a
start basis : if you want performance and don't want to lose too much space, you
have to configure your tables yourself : indexes, constraints, column space,
etc.

> --- such automation is
> possible in Powertier --- I dont know of any other app serv which supports
> such automation. Does IAS support such automation??
> TIA
> Anamitra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louth, William (Exchange) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Looking for EJB server
>
> HI YAIR.
>
> Below is a copy of a mail I have lready posted to a similar question. I can
> assure you that if you investigate my claims you will thank me later. I have
> no monetary gains from my endorsement, its just for once I like this
> industry to choose the technically best solution over the one most marketed
> even if the claims are all subtle lies. I will be posting such a subtle lie
> shortly which I think will shock new comers to this newgroup. The lie
> centers around ejb container -> ejb container support.
>
> ============================================================================
> ===================
>
> Hi Hai,
>
> Since you starting out clean then I would advise you to start looking at a
> container that is released and stable and is ejb 1.1 compliant. My personal
> chocie would be Inprise Application Server 4.0. In invite you download both
> Web Logic 5.0 and IAS 4.0 and then come back here after performing the
> installation of both systems and test driving some simple examples and
> deplying beans trhough the console. After this I think you will understand
> my choice. If your still not convinced you should go to the Inprise
> Application Server 4.0 FAQ and whitepapers and learn something about what
> CORBA and EJB marriage has to offer over other implementations in terms of
> scalability, fail over, and performance.
>
> William
>
> http://www.inprise.com/appserver/
>
> PS: Also check out the great JBuilder for Solaris product with its fine
> deployment support. Then when you deploy make your IT Ops guys happy by
> giving them Inprise AppCenter 4.0.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yair Enden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 8:32 AM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      Q: Looking for EJB server
> >
> > Hi,
> >   I'm looking for a good EJB server. I've heard that WebLogic and
> > WebSphere are good options.
> > Are there other good options?
> > Which is better - Weblogic or WebSphere?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> >   Yair Enden
> >   3 Sapir St.
> >   46852  Herzliya
> >
> >   Tel:
> >     09- 960 4935
> >
> >
>
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