Hi All
I do agree with what you all just said...
and do understand that the gorillas are real heavy and stuck there.
But I believe that EJB and OODBMS will go hand in hand and would actually be
more effective than RDBMS..
although OODBMSes still need to mature up...
For example take Versant or Jasmine ii .. they have improved over the years
... better performance for sure than what they were before...
BTW Has anyone tried EJB with say Versant or Jasmine ii.
Regards
Rohit Parik
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Chuang
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Is it common sense
I had extensive experience w/ Object Design's ObjectStore a year ago. As
a
OO developer, I felt OODBMS is wonder and natural to use. However, also
as
a hardcore performance and scalability engineer, I felt let down by what
it
delivered.
As many have already said, inertia and politics play a big role in why
OODBMS never really took off. Technically there's no excuse why we still
have to mess around with archaic RDBMS, object-mapping, JDBC, etc, but the
bottom line is companies like Oracle are 800 lb gorillas that just won't
budge!
Gene
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Sent: 4/28/01 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Is it common sense
Has anyone really been able to scale an OODBMS?
>From: Filip Hanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Filip Hanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Is it common sense
>Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:30:06 -0700
>
>well, use of a relational database is ROI (return on investment)
>there are so many tools and programs supporting it,
>read this article
>http://java.oreilly.com/news/ejbtips_0500.html
>
>Filip
>
>~
>Namaste - I bow to the divine in you
>~
>Filip Hanik
>Software Architect
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>www.filip.net
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rohit Parik
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Is it common sense
> >
> >
> > To all you Gurus out there
> >
> > So many times we heard the benefits of Object Oriented paradigm and
we
>all
> > love it and we just relish EJBs and the ease with which we can model
> > enterprise applications because its god damn close to the real
world.
> >
> > AND THEN WE BLOW it UP.... our DB remains a relational database....
and
>we
> > loose all that we gain from object orientation.. especially the
damned
> > Object to Relational link...
> > Dont you believe that there should be deep thought given about usage
of
> > ODBMSes as our DB so as to remove the redundancy we introduce
> > with relation
> > dbs.
> >
> > Also one question to you all is Sun promoting any ODBMS or
> > assisting in its
> > development coz Sun, I believe, should realize that EJB can be a
> > out -n- out
> > success only if this redundancy, this overhead of using relational
DBs
>is
> > removed... I understand that ODBMS are still evolving but that's
what I
> > believe Sun should push more.. so they earn more money and we
too.... :)
> >
> > Regards
> > Rohit Parik
> > Netweb Software, India
> > Ph: +91-265-301424
> > +91-265-314729
> > Fax: +91-265-314756
> > email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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