+1 for Doug and Ivan I'd also like to find the real names (which are available at Discuss because they are shown in the profile of a user) being added to the message view and the mail "From" header, for a more personal communication style. It would be easier to begin a reply with a greeting then.
Hopefully this is received as a constructive feedback and not as moaning about Discuss software. Best, Jörg On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Doug Turnbull < dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote: > Oh! I didn't see that. Thank you. I will look again. > > Yeah I actually like many things about discourse. I also like many of the > low friction aspects of a mailing list. I am worried my email sounds too > negative. I should list positives like great markdown support and much > prettier and more legible emails. Discourse is phenomenal forum software. I > honestly hope they can really bridge the gap effortlessly to have as part > of their capabilities truly effortless implementation of a dev mailing list > with an optional forum view. > > I'm sure I'll be using discourse to great effect (and it seems to be being > used). So I could be completly wrong about all my points. :) > > Doug > > On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Ivan Brusic <i...@brusic.com> wrote: > >> I should have added something similar to what does expressed in his last >> paragraph. My feedback was meant to be constructive. Despite this being a >> technical mailing list, I still appreciate a more personal touch. >> >> BTW, Doug, you can watch specific categories. There is a general >> watch-all setting that you might have turned on. >> >> Ivan >> On May 10, 2015 2:37 PM, "Doug Turnbull" < >> dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree. >>> >>> While I appreciate the experimentation, I hope discourse can get to a >>> point where I can forget it's even a forum. Whereby everything can just >>> truly feel like a native mailing list with a great deal less friction, but >>> it's not there yet. >>> >>> Here's some of the missing features: >>> >>> - a signup process that's more an email subscription (just paste in an >>> email address) without having to create any kind of forum account or >>> profile. >>> >>> - the ability to reply to someone individually to their email address. >>> The ability for others to email me directly without discourses PM feature. >>> >>> - It needs the ability to subscribe per topic. Things are a bit noisy >>> right now (ie I'm not interested in log stash) >>> >>> - eliminate "noreply" in the email notifications. I don't feel like I >>> should participate via email when I see this. Give it a friendly name. >>> >>> Right now use via email feels second class. But I think it's the most >>> important thing. I'm likely to scan my low priority inbox where mailing >>> list emails are sent. I'm going to struggle to remember to check in on and >>> participate in a forum to help folks. It's another place to go and all my >>> other OSS mailing lists come to my email and I can work with them >>> seemlessly. So I'm likely to forget to check or possibly not want to bother >>> with elastic which uses a different system. >>> >>> Yes, I do get the notifications, but it doesn't quite feel the same as a >>> mailing list for the reasons above. It feels like a notification from >>> another system. >>> >>> Anyway long and frank email. Forgive the bluntness. I just wanted to >>> express hopefully useful feedback. I do appreciate the thoughtfulness >>> here. I know elastic and discourse folks are very smart. Email truly can >>> become a first class experience and keep some of the great things about >>> discourse. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> Doug >>> >>> On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Ivan Brusic <i...@brusic.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I really do not care for the new mailing list. >>>> >>>> First of all, I can no longer see real names and email addresses. All I >>>> see is whatever nonsensical handle someone choose on sign up. Searching for >>>> Adrien no longer returns his latest posts. >>>> >>>> Second, since every email comes from nore...@discuss.elastic.co, I can >>>> no longer see who replied to a thread. All I see is the handle of the >>>> original poster. I can see the reply counts, but have no idea who the >>>> replies are from. >>>> >>>> Add both of these issues together, and the list has now become very >>>> impersonal. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Ivan >>>> On May 5, 2015 10:49 AM, "Leslie Hawthorn" <leslie.hawth...@elastic.co> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sadly, we cannot twibble bit to allow certain types of links but not >>>>> others. >>>>> >>>>> However, we can adjust the forum settings to allow users to include >>>>> links in their posts from the start of using the forum. I've done so. Let >>>>> us know if you have any further issues. >>>>> >>>>> And, to reiterate what Tyler said earlier, it would be super awesome >>>>> to put this feedback in the Meta Elastic category.[0] >>>>> >>>>> Why you may ask? >>>>> >>>>> 1) Employees from Discourse are keeping an eye on our forum to help us >>>>> help you have a good experience. They're not reading this list, though. >>>>> >>>>> 2) Trying for the single source of truth mentioned in my original post. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you to everyone for the great feedback so far! >>>>> >>>>> [0] - https://discuss.elastic.co/c/meta or via email discuss+meta >>>>> [at] elastic [dot] co >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> LH >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Nikolas Everett <nik9...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think github and pastebins/gists shouldn't be considered against >>>>>> the limit. We ask people to use gist all the time and github issue or >>>>>> code >>>>>> links are a good thing to use as well. >>>>>> On May 4, 2015 5:40 PM, "joergpra...@gmail.com" < >>>>>> joergpra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Shaunak, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I appreciate that. I think it would be more than welcome to let >>>>>>> others of the community also take the advantage of including Github >>>>>>> issues >>>>>>> into the forum software which contain numerous links: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://discuss.elastic.co/t/link-level-in-a-post/151 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jörg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, <shau...@elastic.co> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Jörg, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've removed this restriction from your account. You should be able >>>>>>>> to post more than 2 links in a post now :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shaunak >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:07:14 PM UTC-5, Jörg Prante wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It does not work. I can not post messages with links. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After I try to post a new topic such as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- snip---- >>>>>>>>> To all of you who want to sneak at the features planned for ES >>>>>>>>> 2.0, this issue collects some of it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/issues/9970 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jörg >>>>>>>>> ----snip---- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I receive a denial >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Sorry, new users can only put 2 links in a post." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beside the fact I included just one link, why this restriction? A >>>>>>>>> bit sad that I am considered a new user after five years happily >>>>>>>>> using ES >>>>>>>>> but the machine is always right in the end ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jörg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Leslie Hawthorn < >>>>>>>>> leslie....@elastic.co> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Nikolas Everett <nik...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I suspect its read only while they sort out resourcing issues. >>>>>>>>>>> Cache hit rate is likely quite high while readonly. >>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2015 12:38 PM, Jürgen Wagner (DVT) < >>>>>>>>>>> juergen...@devoteam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The site is read-only. No signups possible. Hmm... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Our friends at Discourse have reported that the site outage has >>>>>>>>>> been resolved. They'll keep up with updates via their Twitter >>>>>>>>>> account: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/discourse/status/595268564493279232 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, please go forth and use the forums. 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