+1 for Doug and Ivan

I'd also like to find the real names (which are available at Discuss
because they are shown in the profile of a user) being added to the message
view and the mail "From" header, for a more personal communication style.
It would be easier to begin a reply with a greeting then.

Hopefully this is received as a constructive feedback and not as moaning
about Discuss software.

Best,

Jörg


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Doug Turnbull <
dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:

> Oh! I didn't see that. Thank you. I will look again.
>
> Yeah I actually like many things about discourse. I also like many of the
> low friction aspects of a mailing list. I am worried my email sounds too
> negative. I should list positives like great markdown support and much
> prettier and more legible emails. Discourse is phenomenal forum software. I
> honestly hope they can really bridge the gap effortlessly to have as part
> of their capabilities truly effortless implementation of a dev mailing list
> with an optional forum view.
>
> I'm sure I'll be using discourse to great effect (and it seems to be being
> used). So I could be completly wrong about all my points. :)
>
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Ivan Brusic <i...@brusic.com> wrote:
>
>> I should have added something similar to what does expressed in his last
>> paragraph. My feedback was meant to be constructive. Despite this being a
>> technical mailing list, I still appreciate a more personal touch.
>>
>> BTW, Doug, you can watch specific categories. There is a general
>> watch-all setting that you might have turned on.
>>
>> Ivan
>> On May 10, 2015 2:37 PM, "Doug Turnbull" <
>> dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> While I appreciate the experimentation, I hope discourse can get to a
>>> point where I can forget it's even a forum. Whereby everything can just
>>> truly feel like a native mailing list with a great deal less friction, but
>>> it's not there yet.
>>>
>>> Here's some of the missing features:
>>>
>>> - a signup process that's more an email subscription (just paste in an
>>> email address) without having to create any kind of forum account or
>>> profile.
>>>
>>> - the ability to reply to someone individually to their email address.
>>> The ability for others to email me directly without discourses PM feature.
>>>
>>> - It needs the ability to subscribe per topic. Things are a bit noisy
>>> right now (ie I'm not interested in log stash)
>>>
>>> - eliminate "noreply" in the email notifications. I don't feel like I
>>> should participate via email when I see this. Give it a friendly name.
>>>
>>> Right now use via email feels second class. But I think it's the most
>>> important thing. I'm likely to scan my low priority inbox where mailing
>>> list emails are sent. I'm going to struggle to remember to check in on and
>>> participate in a forum to help folks. It's another place to go and all my
>>> other OSS mailing lists come to my email and I can work with them
>>> seemlessly. So I'm likely to forget to check or possibly not want to bother
>>> with elastic which uses a different system.
>>>
>>> Yes, I do get the notifications, but it doesn't quite feel the same as a
>>> mailing list for the reasons above. It feels like a notification from
>>> another system.
>>>
>>> Anyway long and frank email. Forgive the bluntness. I just wanted to
>>> express hopefully useful feedback. I do appreciate the thoughtfulness
>>> here. I know elastic and discourse folks are very smart. Email truly can
>>> become a first class experience and keep some of the great things about
>>> discourse.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Ivan Brusic <i...@brusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really do not care for the new mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I can no longer see real names and email addresses. All I
>>>> see is whatever nonsensical handle someone choose on sign up. Searching for
>>>> Adrien no longer returns his latest posts.
>>>>
>>>> Second, since every email comes from nore...@discuss.elastic.co, I can
>>>> no longer see who replied to a thread. All I see is the handle of the
>>>> original poster. I can see the reply counts, but have no idea who the
>>>> replies are from.
>>>>
>>>> Add both of these issues together, and the list has now become very
>>>> impersonal.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ivan
>>>>  On May 5, 2015 10:49 AM, "Leslie Hawthorn" <leslie.hawth...@elastic.co>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, we cannot twibble bit to allow certain types of links but not
>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, we can adjust the forum settings to allow users to include
>>>>> links in their posts from the start of using the forum. I've done so. Let
>>>>> us know if you have any further issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, to reiterate what Tyler said earlier, it would be super awesome
>>>>> to put this feedback in the Meta Elastic category.[0]
>>>>>
>>>>> Why you may ask?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Employees from Discourse are keeping an eye on our forum to help us
>>>>> help you have a good experience. They're not reading this list, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Trying for the single source of truth mentioned in my original post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you to everyone for the great feedback so far!
>>>>>
>>>>> [0] - https://discuss.elastic.co/c/meta or via email discuss+meta
>>>>> [at] elastic [dot] co
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> LH
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Nikolas Everett <nik9...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think github and pastebins/gists shouldn't be considered against
>>>>>> the limit. We ask people to use gist all the time and github issue or 
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> links are a good thing to use as well.
>>>>>> On May 4, 2015 5:40 PM, "joergpra...@gmail.com" <
>>>>>> joergpra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Shaunak,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate that. I think it would be more than welcome to let
>>>>>>> others of the community also take the advantage of including Github 
>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>> into the forum software which contain numerous links:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discuss.elastic.co/t/link-level-in-a-post/151
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, <shau...@elastic.co> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Jörg,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've removed this restriction from your account. You should be able
>>>>>>>> to post more than 2 links in a post now :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shaunak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:07:14 PM UTC-5, Jörg Prante wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does not work. I can not post messages with links.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After I try to post a new topic such as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- snip----
>>>>>>>>> To all of you who want to sneak at the features planned for ES
>>>>>>>>> 2.0, this issue collects some of it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/issues/9970
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>>>>> ----snip----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I receive a denial
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Sorry, new users can only put 2 links in a post."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beside the fact I included just one link, why this restriction? A
>>>>>>>>> bit sad that I am considered a new user after five years happily 
>>>>>>>>> using ES
>>>>>>>>> but the machine is always right in the end ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Leslie Hawthorn <
>>>>>>>>> leslie....@elastic.co> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Nikolas Everett <nik...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect its read only while they sort out resourcing issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> Cache hit rate is likely quite high while readonly.
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2015 12:38 PM, Jürgen Wagner (DVT) <
>>>>>>>>>>> juergen...@devoteam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The site is read-only. No signups possible. Hmm...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our friends at Discourse have reported that the site outage has
>>>>>>>>>> been resolved. They'll keep up with updates via their Twitter 
>>>>>>>>>> account:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/discourse/status/595268564493279232
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, please go forth and use the forums. If they fall
>>>>>>>>>> over again we will work to ensure speedy resolution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your patience, folks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> LH
>>>>>>>>>>
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