On Aug 8, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Merv Schweigert wrote:

> Not true at all,  I have a FT-1000D sitting here and the shift and width 
> control both operate
> the same direction as the K3.

YOU may have an FT-1000D sitting there, but I don't.  What I said pertained to 
ME and the rigs I named, and was QUITE true.  But your example helps me make 
the point I was originally trying to make.  Read on.


>  75A4 switch works 
> counterclockwise
> also,  left to narrow.

The 75A-4 worked whichever way you chose to install the mechanical filters, so 
it was akin to the suggestion that the direction of WIDTH control knob rotation 
on the K3 be user-selectable.  One could just as easily put the narrowest 
filter in the MIDDLE position in the 75A-4.  And it is "the exception that 
proves the rule" in a long line of fine receivers.  Both earlier and later 
Collins receivers (such as the 75A-2 and the 75S-3) very definitely narrowed 
the bandwidth with clockwise rotation.  Even in the 75S-3B/C (which also had 
user-fillable mechanical filter slots) the narrower CW filter positions were 
clockwise from the wider SSB and AM positions.

But your FT-1000D brings me back to my original point:  Each of us individually 
arrives at the K3 with a unique set of life experiences.  You're comfortable 
with the rotation vs. action of the K3 WIDTH knob, and I'm not.   

>From a purely logical point of view, the operation of the WIDTH control on the 
>K3 is consistent with other K3 controls such as AF GAIN and keyer SPEED.  I 
>doubt any of us would be happy with a backwards speed control.  (I can say 
>that because I once owned one, and everyone who tried it hated it!)  

Self-consistent operation of the controls is a nice objective, and quite 
appropriate to test equipment, but it can bite us in a fast-paced, real-time 
operating event such as a contest when it's contrary to habits we have formed 
or is the opposite of what goes on in the second rig of an SO2R setup.  My own 
view is that -- regardless of the habits you or I may have formed or the rigs 
we may have been used to in the past -- the K3's WIDTH knob is fundamentally 
counterintuitive because historically I've never heard anyone say they were 
"dialing in bandwidth" -- the hams I've been around have always dialed in "more 
selectivity" on an "as needed" basis.  In fact, our lingo is replete with 
references to "cranking in" selectivity or narrower filters.  The analogy to 
mechanical cranks is clear and long-standing, and I know of no mechanical 
cranks that perform their primary function by having their handles turned 
counter-clockwise.  That's the REAL source of my difficulty with the K3 W
 IDTH control.  In effect, it's a cultural pre-conditioning that goes beyond 
the rigs I have or have not had the opportunity to use.

So, from my point of view, the WIDTH knob would be better named the SELECTIVITY 
knob or the FILTERING knob or the NARROWING knob, and it would have the 
opposite action with clockwise rotation as it does today.  But all those names 
are far too long for a front panel as small as the K3's.  Besides, during a 
contest, when it matters, I don't look at the names over the knobs or at the 
little displays that show the bandwidth increasing or decreasing, either.  I 
just try to make contacts as fast as possible.  For that, I agree with the 
person who said it would be really nice if the function of the WIDTH knob was 
user-selectable.

Bud, W2RU

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