I have a 17 year old granddaughter who just before Dayton indicated she wanted to get her ham ticket. I told her about the no code license. She told me she had no desire to have that. She wanted to learn the code and take the Extra Exam. I understand you have to take the Technician exam before you can take the General, is that right? Her mother and I went to Dayton and got the granddaughter the things she needed to start learning the theory. I made her a CD of K7QO's CW CD. Paul Gates K1 #0231 KX1 #1186 XG1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Kern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Craig Rairdin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] RE: Sad day > Thinking about it, > I don't think dropping the code will make one bit of difference to CW. > I > agree with Craig in that the guys that just squeak by the CW test most > likely won't be found on the CW bands. The people who want to learn CW > will. > 99% of my HF operating is in CW. I'm not on HF that often, but when I do > it's almost always CW. I imagine there will be (at least in the beginning) > a > flood of HF phone activity and then it will taper off back to 'normal' or > a > little higher than normal afterwards. > > James Kern > Network Administrator > Kurt S. Adler, Inc. > 1107 Broadway > New York, NY 10010 > 212-924-0900 x222 (work) > 212-807-0575 (fax) > 908-451-6801 (cell) > 800-209-7438 (pager) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Rairdin > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] RE: Sad day > > > I sympathize with you, and certainly welcome your contributions to the > hobby > and to your local emergency services organizations (as if my "welcome" > were > necessary or even important). > > On the other hand, there are concepts on the written test that seemed like > garbage to me no matter how much I studied. I have a computer science > degree > with lots of advanced math and engineering but some of the formulae and > algorithms required for the Extra exam just leave me scratching my head. > > So my question is, should a bunch of us be able to get together and ask > that > all the technical requirements for ham licenses be dropped just because > it's > hard? That's what this "no code" thing sounds like to me. To me dropping > the > code and only having a written test is philosophically no different than > dropping the written test and keeping the code. > > In the end, the hobby is changing. Other countries have dropped the code > requirement. We should follow suit. It sounds like the tests have been > steadily getting easier over the last 100 years. This is just the next > step. > > As a CW-only, HF-only ham, I think this seems more ominous and > wrong-headed > to me than it does to others. I don't think other points of view are > invalid, though. Just trying to make my opinions known. The guys who > squeak > by on a CW test just for the test's sake are probably never going to show > up > in the CW bands anyway so it may be a net zero loss for the practice of > CW. > > I think I'll stop posting on this subject now. :-) > > Craig > > > ----Original Message---- > From: DAN ABBOTT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 07/21/05 10:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] RE: Sad day -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have > been > reading the comments about the possibility of dropping the requirement for > CW in order to advance your license. I have great respect for those who > have > passed the code test and one day I would like to be able to use CW, but it > will take a converter and keyboard to accomplish the task. Let me explain. > I > built my K2/100 while trying to learn the code to achieve my General > license > [ it's been three months now] with absolutely no success, my K2 is now > only > a listening device. I have used Ham University and Your Introduction to > Morse Code from ARRL with no success. If your familiar with the courses, I > get to the letter L and when you add all the other letters to the sentence > it sounds like garbage to me. > I guess my question is, does it make you less of an operator not knowing > CW? > I have an EE degree, so there is no problem with the concepts and I am the > Resources Coordinator for ARES/RACES for my county. When the FCC dropped > the > requirement for CW, that opened the door for me to be come a HAM and be > able > to do the Emergency work I do now. So why should it stop me from expanding > and being of even more use to the community? > > 73's > > Dan N7DWA K2/100 # 4775 > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. 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