On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
> 
> 3) Rag chewing in the everyday world has gone the way of speeches vs 
> tweets.  So short exchanges are ingrained these days.

YMMV.   My typical digital mode QSO is 30-60+ minutes.   My CW contacts are 
typically 20-40 minutes.

I suspect that this is not a new phenomena, the RCC certificate has been around 
for many generations.  I assume it originated to encourage more than just a 
contest type exchange.

> 
> I really don't think the contest exchanges is any less meaningful that 
> the brag tapes sent these day in the digital modes.  Who cares about the 
> other guy's dog's DNA.


I will agree with you there.   I could care less about which subrelease of the 
O/S or application he is using.

As for contests, I have no problem with contests if they either:

1- were restricted to a portion of the band, allowing non contest people to 
share the band
2- were careful to avoid interfering with non-contest QSOs

Ken WA8JXM


> 
> 73 DE Brian/K3KO
> 
> On 2/20/2012 12:50, John Ragle wrote:
>> Since when do pre-programmed memory buttons and logging software
>> constitute "crisp operating practices?"
>> 
>> In the case of actual public service, observing net protocol and careful
>> listening/transmitting are the important factors, along with
>> properly-prepared emergency hardware.
>> 
>> I am not opposed to contests per se, but when the calendar is completely
>> dominated by this kind of activity, I think it is "out of control," as
>> N5GE observes.
>> 
>> It is a pity that the Elecraft CW net had to be cancelled because QRM
>> from contests would have overwhelmed it.

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