Ok...I was a little hasty I think. I've never been a contester and didn't consider HAVING to make the contact in adverse conditions.
Sent from my iPad Chuck, KE9UW (Jack for BMW motorcycles) On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:05 PM, "David Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I totally agree ... there is nothing clear about that path at all. 5 db is a > HUGE difference if you're anywhere near the noise level on the other end, and > it is a major difference if you're competing against other weak stations for > a contact. Under the right circumstances even 2 db can make a significant > difference. I urge anyone who doesn't believe me to check out: > > http://www.ab7e.com/weak_signal/mdd.html > > QRP is fun and I've done a lot of it myself, but saying that 5 to 7 db is not > worth having in general is just nonsense. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > > > On 12/18/2012 3:14 PM, Scott Manthe wrote: >> I hate to be a contrarian, but the path is not quite so clear. That 5 to 7 >> dB can be the difference between making a contact or not making a contact, >> especially on the low bands. We're not always talking about the difference >> between S9, plus 20 or 25, but the difference between S0 or S.5, or being an >> S unit above the noise. >> >> I currently don't have anything bigger than my KPA500 and I'm very happy >> with it, but anyone who says that 600 watts is always enough power doesn't >> try to work tough DX on 80 or 160m. A serious 160 op will tell you that 600 >> watts is often about 6 dB too little, sometimes more... >> >> 73, >> Scott, N9AA >> >> >> On 12/18/12 3:31 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: >>> I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 5 to >>> 7 dB is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with. As said by a >>> person with a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts. >>> >>> 73, phil, K7PEH >>> >>> >>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, "hawley, charles j jr" >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 >>>> with the Commander in line. The path is clear... >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> Chuck, KE9UW >>>> (Jack for BMW motorcycles) >>>> >>>> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
