I for one would remove and sell my 2m module in my K3 in order to have an internal 6/10/12m preamp.
JMHO 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:49 PM To: Joe Subich, W4TV Cc: elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Combo pre-amp Ah Joe, Thankyou for resurrecting my thought that it IS possible. The issue will most likely be a lack of quantity that would be sold versus the cost to manufacture, I will live in hope...:-) thanks for the info Joe, much appreciated. 73 Gary On 26 May 2013 12:45, Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > let's not let that technical inconvenience reduce in any way my hope > > for a cure to my sometimes demented desires....:-) > > I'm not saying it isn't possible ... takes one additional relay and > two connectors. There are even couple unused control lines on the > KXV3A that could be used to control the added relay and switch bands > (10/12 and 6 M) if necessary. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 5/25/2013 10:13 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> Hi Joe, >> >> Gee...Shhhhh....let's not let that technical inconvenience reduce in >> any way my hope for a cure to my sometimes demented desires....:-) >> >> Of course you are quite correct Joe. Point taken mate. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary >> >> On 26 May 2013 12:06, Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> So, I will continue to want an internal pre-amp and it does not >>> need >>> >>>> to be for 6M as I don't operate there either. This is MY choice and >>>> does not hold sway with the masses but it is my choice after all. >>>> >>>> >>> I agree that an internal preamp (or premps) would be ideal. >>> However, in addition to the preamp(s) Elecraft would need to provide >>> *another* design for the KXV3A - one that switches the RX ANT IN/OUT >>> connections to internal jacks - as neither the original KXV3 or >>> current KXV3A have that capability. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> ... Joe, W4TV >>> >>> >>> On 5/25/2013 9:24 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> >>> I don't wish to flog a dead horse any further, however, choice is >>>> something >>>> it seems everyone on this list is after. >>>> >>>> So what if a K3 needs to NOT have a 2M transverter to fit a combo >>>> pre-amp?....there are many K3's in the world not fitted with 2M. >>>> This is a choice made by the original owner I guess which is what >>>> it is, a choice. I fully appreciate everyone's point of view, but I >>>> would hazard a guess I am not alone in wanting an internal unit as >>>> a CHOICE, not at the expense of taking away other folks right to >>>> choose. >>>> >>>> Wayne has stated Elecraft's case and that is there is not enough >>>> room but his statement is qualified by the mention of the 2M option >>>> which is a customer choice right? >>>> >>>> So, I will continue to want an internal pre-amp and it does not >>>> need to be for 6M as I don't operate there either. This is MY >>>> choice and does not hold sway with the masses but it is my choice >>>> after all. >>>> >>>> You mention remote install, fine, but again it is still another >>>> cable and still yet another box to cart around. Setup on a table >>>> (standard picnic >>>> size) the depth of the table means you need to have the K-Line >>>> right on the rear edge and the 6M pre-amp protrudes far enough back >>>> that if you are up against a barrier of some sort, the cables push >>>> the K-Line forward and reduce the work space area such that little >>>> room is left to operate in a comfortable manner. >>>> >>>> I could pontificate forever on the drawbacks when operating >>>> portable but I am probably not a member of the right choir. >>>> >>>> Maybe an OEM will come up with a 'plug-in' internal 10M pre-amp >>>> designed for a K3.....now that would solve everything for me and I >>>> wouldn't have to plead my case....:-) >>>> >>>> It's all about choice folks! >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> On 26 May 2013 10:32, Walter Underwood <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The original poster mentioned "those of us who operate portable". >>>> Running >>>> >>>>> cables to the next room does not make that any simpler. >>>>> >>>>> wunder >>>>> K6WRU >>>>> >>>>> On May 25, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This sounds like a lack of creative thinking. How about using >>>>> two 90 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> degree >>>>> >>>>> BNC elbows on the back of the radio and a couple of BNC jumpers. >>>>> You >>>>>> can >>>>>> put the preamp anywhere... even in the next room is that is your >>>>>> fancy. >>>>>> Also, you might try one of the 50+ preamps that are already >>>>>> available by >>>>>> >>>>>> a >>>>> >>>>> variety of companies with ultra-low noise figures. I'm not sure >>>>> I >>>>>> need >>>>>> a >>>>>> preamp to take up the space of my existing 2 meter module. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ >>>>>> >>>>>> Owner - Operator >>>>>> Big Signal Ranch >>>>>> Staunton, Illinois >>>>>> >>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: >>>>>> [email protected].****net<elecraft-bounces@mailman.* >>>>>> *qth.net <[email protected]>> >>>>>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces@**mai**lman.qth.net >>>>>> <http://mailman.qth.net> >>>>>> <elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net<[email protected]. >>>>>> net> >>>>>> >] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Jeff Cochrane >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:03 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Combo pre-amp >>>>>> >>>>>> Agreed Gary, >>>>>> I too would be interested in an internal 10M pre-amp (or an >>>>>> internal >>>>>> >>>>>> combo >>>>> >>>>> 6-10M pre-amp). >>>>>> I already have the PR6 but like you say it (in stock form) >>>>>> protrudes so >>>>>> >>>>>> far >>>>> >>>>> out behind the rig that it almost impossible to use for portable work. >>>>>> Mounting it internally is the way to go and I reckon a combo >>>>>> pre-amp >>>>>> >>>>>> would >>>>> >>>>> sit nicely where the internal 2M transverter normally goes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary Gregory-2 wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> Well I do hope there will be a version for 10M perhaps that will >>>>>>> install >>>>>>> within the K3. Much as it would be nice to have I am not going >>>>>>> to buy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> more >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> boxes needing to be plugged in, cabled or whatever. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whilst I understand some folks have space available and can wire >>>>>>> in as many boxes as are available, those of us who operate >>>>>>> portable tire very >>>>>>> >>>>>>> quickly >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> of sorting cables, boxes and the resultant tangled leads. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess I will have to wait and see what is produced but another >>>>>>> >>>>>>> external >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> box such as the 6M pre-amp which protrudes too far and can easily >>>>> be >>>>>> >>>>>>> knocked around is a non starter for me no matter that I could >>>>>>> use it, it is what it is, a box too far. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Gary - VK1ZZ >>>>>>> Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ >>>>>>> Motorhome Portable >>>>>>> The Shack* >>>>>>> *Elecraft K3 >>>>>>> P3 Panadapter >>>>>>> KPA500FT >>>>>>> KAT500FT** >>>>>>> KX3-K >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> ______________________________****____________________________** >>>>>>> __**__ >>>>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>>>> Home: >>>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/****mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mail >>>>>>> man.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>>>>> <http**://mailman.qth.net/mailman/**listinfo/elecraft<http://mai >>>>>>> lman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Help: >>>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.****htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfa >>>>>>> q.**htm> >>>>>>> <http://mailman.qth.net/**mmfaq.htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq >>>>>>> .htm> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Post: mailto: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>>>> Please help support this email list: >>>>>>> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Jeff Cochrane - 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