On 2015-01-05 2:36 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
I agree with both of you.  If you want to use (and brag about) modes
where you (your computer) work signals inaudible to human beings then
you should not complain when those same human beings don't know your
computer is using the frequency.

This has progressed past the "OT limit" but the issue isn't QRM to
signals "inaudible to human beings" ... it is QRM to signals that
*ARE* audible but using a different and incompatible encoding system.
The RTTY operators are transmitting where they know (or should know)
that other protocols are regularly used *without listening* for the
other activity.

Contesters do not have a "priority right" to any frequency they want
and should be expected to listen long enough to determine whether the
frequency is occupied and go someplace else if it is - contest or not.
With JT65/JT9, it takes *at least* 70 seconds of listening to be sure
to catch either side of a QSO.  Listen for 5 seconds at 50 seconds
into the minute and the entire JT65/JT9 "segment" is going to sound
unused ... but that's not the fact.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-01-05 2:36 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
I agree with both of you.  If you want to use (and brag about) modes
where you (your computer) work signals inaudible to human beings then
you should not complain when those same human beings don't know your
computer is using the frequency.

Wes  N7WS


On 1/5/2015 12:23 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Mon,1/5/2015 10:54 AM, David Cole wrote:
To expect the worldwide Amateur Radio community, to clear out space on
every band, for the few hundred JT users, on the off chance someone
might be transmitting, is simply insane and selfish.

I've made a lot of QSOs using the WSJT modes, but I wouldn't dream of
doing so when a contest is occupying the same space. The same is true
of CW or SSB on contesting bands during a contest. We hams have a lot
of spectrum, but none of us owns any frequency, either individually or
as a group. Contest organizers intentionally avoid the WARC bands, and
RTTY contesting intentionally avoids 160M. Someone who wants to work
JT65 or PSK31 on HF during a RTTY contest can QSY to 160M, 30M, 17M,
or 12M. So can CW operators. At least one of these bands will usually
be open enough to have fun.

73, Jim K9YC
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