Barry,

You said "Our Field Day operation uses all KX3s, QRP ... ". Well that's a tad different than if you have some 500 W stations nearby operating near your frequency. And that is more typical of the situation I described. So rather than disagree you provided the exception that proves the rule :-)

And "the KX3 can handle any intelligently crowded environment": Would that all our bands were "intelligently crowded"!

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/11/15 3:49 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
Phil,
I will take the given opportunity to disagree. Our Field Day operation uses all KX3s, QRP, That accounts for 3AB + a GOTA station. There have been times when we found one of our GOTA ops on the same band and in the same portion of the band. What we have found is that if the other radio is not in the same part of the band, you may not even know he is there. However, you know he's there. If he is far enough away, you could work through him. There is one caveat. We do have our antennas really spread out. Our GOTA antenna(s) can be any where from 200'-400' away depending on which of our many antennas are being used at the time. And secondly, all of our radios are using the 8 KHz offset. I was amazed at the demonstration the first time it happened. I would say that the KX3 can handle any intelligently crowed environment.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Phil Wheeler" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 12/11/2015 6:23:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Receivers?

Scott,

I agree with all that Ron says -- and have the K2, K3 and KX3 .. and like them all.

Re "I am considering the KX3": The one caveat I would add, and others can expand on (or disagree with) this, is that if you operate in a dense ham environment like Field Day or with other nearby hams operating on the same bands the direct-conversion KX3 will not be as good as the two superhets because you may have more difficulty hearing weaker signals with those strong, nearby signals at adjacent frequencies.

In Auckland this may or may not be an issue for you -- but as I recall 70% or so of New Zealand's population is in the Auckland area.

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/11/15 1:40 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
Scott, the three rigs use different design formats:

The K3 and K2 and conventional superhetrodyne formats with an Intermediate Frequency in the H.F. range and crystal filters to set the passband. The K2 has an adjustable crystal filter and the K3 uses fixed crystal filter bandwidths. The basic K2 bandwidth is established by the crystal filter while the K3 adds an adjustable DSP filter after the crystal filter. (The K2 has an optional audio DSP for enhanced filtering.)

Although you will often see Elecraft rig owners refer to "roofing filters" the Elecraft rigs avoid them, using an I.F. in the H.F. range instead that avoids a lot of the compromises involved in up-converting to a first I.F. in the VHF range with a VHF "roofing filter" to set the initial selectivity.

The KX3 is quite different. It is a high-performance direct conversion receiver using phasing to suppress the unwanted sideband followed by
filtering of the resulting audio.

I'm a casual, mostly QRP operator who avoids pile-ups (and so contests) and enjoy all three. If I had to settle on one or the other I'd probably take the KX3 as my first choice because of its small size, the "transparent" sound of a direct conversion format and options such as the PX3 panadapter. My second choice would be my trusty and ever dependable 15 year old K2 simply because I'm basically an "analog" sort of guy. But I have no complaints about the K3/K3S. I'm sure others who enjoy busting "pileups" will have more to offer about the advantages of the K3/K3S.

For detailed test comparisons check out the results published by Sherwood
Engineering on their web site:

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html




-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott
Gillen ZL1CHM
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] Receivers?

Can anyone compare the receivers in the KX3 versus K3 versus K2? Is there a significant difference? I am considering the KX3.

73
Scott

N0HOK / ZL1CHM
Auckland New Zealand

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