Fingerprints on a touchscreen are very easy to clean.

Bob Nobis - N7RJN
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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 19:50, K5HM <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have a new car with Touchscreen controls.  When the engine is off, I see 
> all the finger marks. Ugh.  No touchscreen for me. 
> 
> 73,
> Ron, K5HM
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> www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
> 
>        Excelsior!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry 
> More
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM
> To: John <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
> 
> Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then 
> most software packages allow  you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, 
> tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination 
> depending on the software and your needs.
> Jer
> 
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> 
> From: Jerry Moore
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM
> To: John; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
> 
> Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little 
> value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low 
> (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be 
> integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro 
> computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm 
> doing now with a raspberry pi). 
> 
> So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3.
> 
> Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that 
> the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? 
> 
> On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind.
> 
> Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen 
> smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all 
> reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the 
> same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial 
> products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI 
> communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial 
> aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham 
> radio.
> Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the 
> cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely 
> good. 
> Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you 
> need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been 
> added……no problem with a touch screen.
> Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen.
> The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and 
> buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some 
> knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or 
> third function does, becomes difficult.
> 
> Food for thought :-)
> 
> 73
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Don,
> 
> I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the 
> manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their 
> ways.  Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the 
> original design and fire the person responsible for the change.
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:
> Lynn,
> 
> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for  blind 
> operators.
> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios  with 
> those blind operators particularly in mind.
> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future  
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things  on and 
> off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally  released.
> 
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more  flexible 
> than a silk-screened metal panel.
> 
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's  really 
> time to lighten up, folks.
> 
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of  "empty" 
> buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the  firmware grows 
> to need them.
> 
> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the  touch 
> screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
> 
> 
> 
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