Well-known phenomenon, Terry: Reincarnation of The
Dead Horse :-)
Phil W7OX
On 6/6/16 3:12 PM, Terry Schieler wrote:
Apparently so, Bob. Hard to believe this many Elecrafters were absent when we beat this
"Touch Screen" dead horse to death three weeks ago. ;o)
Terry, W0FM
-----Original Message-----
From: riese-k3...@juno.com [mailto:riese-k3...@juno.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:08 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products
this is going to go on for a while isnt it
Bob K3DJC
I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all
the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me.
73,
Ron, K5HM
k5hm....@gmail.com
www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
Excelsior!
-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM
To: John <jkra...@iafrica.com>; n...@n5ge.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then
most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY,
tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination
depending on the software and your needs.
Jer
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From: Jerry Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM
To: John; n...@n5ge.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little
value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning
the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as
an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital,
extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi).
So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3.
Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that
the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough?
On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John <jkra...@iafrica.com> wrote:
Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind.
Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart
phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching
for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing.
Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military
and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are
good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications,
then it sure is good enough for ham radio.
Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the
cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good.
Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you
need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added
no problem with a touch screen.
Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen.
The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and
buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs
have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third
function does, becomes difficult.
Food for thought :-)
73
John
On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE <n...@n5ge.com>
wrote:
Don,
I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the
manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways.
Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design
and fire the person responsible for the change.
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:
Lynn,
Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind
operators.
Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with
those blind operators particularly in mind.
A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future
upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and
off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.
Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than
a silk-screened metal panel.
I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time
to lighten up, folks.
Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty"
buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them.
On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch
screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
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