Capacitors should usually have less loss than inductors. This is not true for 
manual turners with polyvaricons. Those are fairly lossy capacitors.

wunder
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> On Oct 1, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kevin - K4VD <ke...@k4vd.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Holger:
> 
> I just finished reading an article that may answer your question:
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/9501046.pdf
> 
> If I'm understanding it correctly, the inductor's Q factor is the issue.
> The Cout capacitance should be set to the highest value possible with the L
> and Cin supporting that for lowest SWR.  I think this means the higher the
> inductor's Q the less losses seen in the matching network. Does this mean
> the higher the inductance (higher inductive reactance) the higher Q and the
> lower loss? That's how it is looking to me.
> 
> I don't know what kind of matching network is used  in the Elecraft ATU.
> I'm hoping someone with a better understanding can verify or correct what
> I've said.
> 
> 73,
> Kevin K4VD
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Holger Schurig <holgerschu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 2016-09-30 21:59 GMT+02:00 Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net>:
>> 
>>> This is reminiscent of one of the five volumes in Douglas Adams' trilogy,
>>> "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy."
>> 
>> 
>> I understand that either my english is very weird. Or that I can't explain
>> things good.
>> 
>> But that you and Davidthink that they must make a 42 joke on this is
>> definitely weird.
>> 
>> 
>> The question was: I can query the KX3 ATU for what it settled. I have an
>> end fed antenna and so I have various variables:
>> 
>> - used tap (1:4, 1:9, 1:16)
>> - some random length wire
>> - band
>> 
>> And forget an "optimal wire", I might just have switched from 12m to 10m.
>> Or back. Depends on what I find, propagation ...   so assume that my wire
>> is just some random wire, not necessary optimal for the band. And also, in
>> the context of my question, this is entirely irrelavant. I was never asking
>> about wire lengths, this is easy to read up. Okay, back to my scenario: I
>> just switched the new band. I'm not going to let my portable glass fiber
>> down because of that and change the wire length! Instead I do what a lazy
>> OM does: I press the TUNE button and the internal magical antenna tuner
>> does it's job. It's actually so magic, that it will do it's job on all
>> taps. On the 1:4 tap, on the 1:9 tap. And on the 1:16 tap. Woah! But I can
>> query the ATU for what inductance and capacitance it used to do the match.
>> And so my simple question was: would a lower inductance have less losses
>> inside the ATU?
>> 
>> And please: if you don't know the answer of if you think that there is no
>> answer, than just stay silent.
>> 
>> 
>> 73, Holger
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