Is it possible that a beat note between tones (and their harmonics) is what’s 
modulating the ALC reading? If so, moving the tone slightly off the standard 
pitch may be an acceptable workaround.

Wayne
N6KR


> On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Wes Stewart <wes_n...@triconet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good find Brian!!! I see it too in FT8.
> 
> This probably explains the great variability in results reported. Some of us 
> have a problem, others say, Huh, what the heck are you talking about?
> 
> Wes, N7WS
> 
> 
> On 8/4/2017 11:33 AM, Brian Hunt wrote:
>> Here's some followup:
>> FLDIGI shows the "pumping" affect with carrier tones of 500, 1000, 1500, and 
>> 2000 Hz.
>> WSJT-X 1.8 shows the "pumping" affect with carrier tones of 1000, 1500 and 
>> 2000 Hz (couldn't select 500 Hz).
>> 
>> The affect is very narrow with frequency.  10 Hz either way and the output 
>> and ALC display and MON output is rock solid.  Changing the K3 filter center 
>> frequency has no effect on the above.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Brian, K0DTJ
>> 
>> On 8/4/2017 10:58, Brian Hunt wrote:
>>> I spent some quality time with my K3, FLDIGI and an oscilloscope today.  I 
>>> had the same problem as described.  Looking at my USB soundcard output to 
>>> the K3, the amplitude of the audio from FLDIGI in TUNE mode was rock solid. 
>>> Looking at the MON output from the K3, the level oscillated in time with 
>>> the ALC "pumping" at about 2.4 Hz (timed with a stop watch).  At the same 
>>> time the K3 power output into a dummy load was rock solid at a selected 10 
>>> watts.
>>> 
>>> Then I changed the carrier frequency in FLDIGI slightly off 1500 Hz and the 
>>> "pumping" went away!  At 1515 Hz I could easily set the ALC to the desired 
>>> 4 bars solid, 5th flickering.  Then I remembered (and verified) that the 
>>> default filter center in DATA A mode is 1500 Hz. I changed the filter 
>>> center frequency to 1450 Hz and moved the FLDIGI frequency around but 
>>> couldn't reproduce the "pumping".
>>> 
>>> I plan to repeat the same tests with WSJT-X 1.8 but wanted to get this out 
>>> to the group.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Brian, K0DTJ
>>> 
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