A year or two ago, W3LPL taught us that this is the result of passive intermod generated either by the diodes or the SMPS or both. We see this in our CW contesting trailer, where CW operating frequencies on 80, 40, and 20 are harmonically related. We run K3, P3, KPA500, KAT500 to individual single-band dipoles with feedpoints within a few feet of each other. The 40 and 80 feedlines both have double stubs, placed along the line to maximize their effectiveness per this app note http://k9yc.com/LocatingStubs.pdf  and all antennas have common mode chokes at the feedpoint.

If we park in the middle of nowhere, the stubs bring the power amp second harmonic down to the point that we can operate within 10 kHz or so of it. If, however, we set up close to civilization, some piece of gear, usually an SMPS, receives our fundamental, generates the harmonic, and re-radiates it.  During CQP two weeks ago, we thought we were in the middle of nowhere (a remote mountain ridge in the Sierra), but then saw a cell tower a half mile or so away.  My experience  has been lots of noise sources at these sites, and something(s) near us were generating lots of harmonics.

Last week I was working the Makrothen RTTY contest at home, running about 1 kW between 20and 40 with antennas whose feedpoints are 5-10 ft apart. Usually that's not a problem, thanks to double stubs on the 40M antenna, but that day I heard lots of passive intermod and saw it on the P3. Then at some time in the morning the intermod disappeared. I'm guessing that the offending device was moved, turned off, disconnected?



On 10/21/2017 9:51 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
One thing observed at our repeater location is that the CFL was quiet until the 
the transmitter was on the air. It then generated noise.  In a simplex 
condition it wouldn't be observed. But in a duplex operation or multiple 
receiver situation it becomes an issue.  Replaced by a LED with lessened issues.

http://k9yc.com/KillingRXNoiseVisalia.pdf

http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

On 10/21/2017 9:21 AM, Jim - N4ST wrote:
I have noticed the background noise level growing on the HF bands, and for me, especially 
on 18 Mhz.  I need to declare war on RFI and find out what is causing this.  I did 
carefully checkout some Walmart "100 W" LED lights before committing to them 
and they were fine.


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