Mitch:

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Barry,
> 
> Understand your standpoint now, but that is the opposite of what you wrote 
> below.  You said that you wanted to be able to run the KAT-500 utility 
> remotely, which prompted me to let you know about the serial servers that 
> would be the solution. The Apple part of course makes that somewhat more 
> complicated.

I don’t believe I changed anything in my posting.  I originally stated that I 
was already controlling the KAT500 remotely through a serial-to-ethernet 
interface.  (My original post stated, "What I miss is the direct 
controllability of the KAT500 which requires the KAT500 utility to be 
controlled remotely.  I’ve done this using a Serial-to-Ethernet converter, but 
I don’t like it because it requires a PC to run it”)   By “direct 
controllability” I mean not using a PC running specific software (KAT500 
utility)  requiring virtual com ports and instead using a web-based interface 
such as the RC-1216H for ease of use and compatibility with a multitude of 
devices to control it.  Until such an interface is available, however, I’m 
forced to stick with the current solution of using a PC, virtual serial 
port(s), serial-to-ethernet converter, and KAT500 utility software.  

Much about remote operating boils down to personal preference.  There is no 
‘right’ answer; rather how one uses their station,  lessons learned over time, 
and new technical offerings will cause evolution of how ‘best’ it can be done 
on a case-by-case basis. How I manage my station today is totally different 
that what I did back in 2014.  

> 
> Hopefully someone on the list will now know about these devices which are 
> wonderful to use for remoting.


I agree these devices are very helpful;  without the Lantronics EDS4100 my 
setup would be much more “kludgy” to manage the KAT500 remotely.


73,

Barry, WD4ASW


> 
> 73,
> Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
> 
> -- 
> Mitch Wolfson  K7DX / DJ0QN
> 10285 Boca Cir, Naples, FL 34109
> Skype: mitchwo
> USA: Home:+1-239-221-9600 - Mobile:+1-424-288-9171
> Germany: Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile/WhatsApp:+49 172 8374436
> 
> On 28.02.2019 14:52, Barry Baines wrote:
>> Mitch:
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Barry,
>>> 
>>> I have been using serial to ethernet servers for over 10 years to control 
>>> rotors, amplifiers and other serial devices. You set these up once and can 
>>> forget about them. You install a virtual serial port on the control PC for 
>>> which you can use any kind of client software to control that device, but 
>>> there is of course no web interface. No local PC on the radio side needs to 
>>> be running. I use these devices instead of the (expensive) dedicated 
>>> RC-1216H devices that only provide a web interface. My favorite ones are 
>>> the Lantronix UDS2100, which I have bought over Ebay.
>> I’m currently using the Lantronics EDS4100 serial-to-ethernet which works 
>> well.  As you note, one creates a virtual com port on the controlling PC 
>> running Windows.  This device can manage up to four serial ports at the 
>> remote site.  Thus, I have the virtual com configuration installed on 
>> Win-7Pro machine in the shack as well as on a Win10Pro virtual machine 
>> running on my MacBook Pro running Parallels that’s with me.
>> 
>> However, that’s the problem…  I want to use web-based devices because I have 
>> no desire to run a Windows in the shack or where I am.  A web-based device 
>> such as the RC-1216H is much more convenient, doesn’t require a PC to access 
>> and avoids having to specially configure the controlling computer such as is 
>> required to manage a Lantronics device that is only compatible with Windows 
>> OS.  I can’t tell you how many times I’ve used my iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, 
>> etc. to remotely manage my station to turn on/off devices (through West 
>> Mountain Radio’s 4005i) or even reboot computers (through Digital Loggers 
>> Pro Switch).
>> 
>>> Note that the WebSwitch 1216H (not the RC-1216H) allows rotor control and 
>>> also has a serial port server to provide a virtual serial port. This port 
>>> can however only be used for the rotor, plus the web interface and virtual 
>>> serial port can not be used at the same time.
>> 
>> To further clarify:
>> 
>> The RC-1216H can be configured to manage the KPA-500,  the SteppIR,  
>> ACOM-200A, Expert 1K-FA, and specific rotators.  According to the RC-1216H 
>> manual, “At the moment it support Prositel rotators with the D-type control 
>> box, AlfaSpid rotators,  rotators controlled by Green Heron control box and 
>> other rotators with serial interfaces with the DCU-1 protocol.”  In my case, 
>> the RC-1216H is compatible with the Green Heron RT-21 control box. Along 
>> with managing the rotor direction, jt can also power on/off the Green Heron 
>> controller through a relay box (such as  from West Mountain Radio) that 
>> allows 12 VDC to power on/off a 120 VAC device.  Keep the Green Heron power 
>> switch set to ‘on’ and I have  remote on/off capability for the Green Heron 
>> itself through the RC-1216H.    Thus, I have two RC-1216H devices:  one to 
>> manage the KPA500 and the other to manage my Green Heron/Orion rotor system.
>> 
>> The Webswitch 1216H is certainly an alternative for rotor control and people 
>> do get confused with the two model designations.  When I ordered the 
>> RC-1216H from HRO, they sent me the webswitch 1216H in error.  I like the 
>> RC-1216H because it is a simple RS232 cable connection between the RC-1216H 
>> and Green Heron;  configure the RC-1216H to manage a rotor, and it basically 
>> works out-of-the-box.    There are eight predefined aziumth bearings that 
>> can be labeled as well as the ability to direct the antenna to a specific 
>> bearing.
>> 
>> In summary, the trend is for more seamless web-based management of remote 
>> devices both in the consumer market and amateur radio as it eliminates the 
>> need for specific hardware/software to remotely manage devices.  If I could 
>> replace using KAT-500 Utility software with a web-based device such as the 
>> RC-1216H  to manage the tuner, I could stick with running Apple devices (and 
>> avoid running Windows under Parallels on a MacBook Pro) and be able to fully 
>> control my K3 station from anywhere (in conjunction with the K3/0-Mini).
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Barry, WD4ASW
>> (Keller, TX)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Mitch Wolfson  K7DX / DJ0QN
>>> 10285 Boca Cir, Naples, FL 34109
>>> Skype: mitchwo
>>> USA: Home:+1-239-221-9600 - Mobile:+1-424-288-9171
>>> Germany: Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile/WhatsApp:+49 172 8374436
>>> 
>> 
> 

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