Once upon a time there was a radio design that would be the LAST RADIO
you ever needed... and its receiver design was way far ahead of then
current "top 3 " designs. No .... old Tenneessee Technical... it was
Ten Tec Orion It was the 'first" to revert back to old "not triple
conversion" designs. Another oldie was Squire Sanders ( check google
)...lools like similar design....
Ten Tec had IT..... if ONLY they would have bothered to spend the bucks
for a programmer to build a decent interface. I had one on order, and
drove down & visited the TenTec hamfest /factor tour and Orion Debut
,,, the set was NOT in the tent as it was inside being checked out, it
had "checked out" while being demonstrated.
I later cancelled my order , as was the employment of the receiver
designer.... The receiver was GREAT , too bad the rest of the radio
was not.
another leader that got lost.
bill/3
On 3/29/2020 1:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Charles,
The most competitive contesters -- the subject of this thread -- will always
gravitate to the highest performing radios, not to their favorite brand.
The K3 design is dated, all of the other top manufacturers have introduced
much higher performing SSB radios in recent years. The K3 was a
revolutionary design when it was introduced many years ago, but no more.
Hopefully the new K4 will change the game in Elecraft's favor once again,
especially for the most competitive SSB operators.
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Sells" <[email protected]>
To: "K9FD" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:39:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...
Merv,
I am curious. If you think K3’s are “losers” then why are you on the Elecraft
Reflector message board in the first place?
73
Charles
W4PPP
On Mar 29, 2020, at 12:26 PM, K9FD <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree Paul, and my comment was to play the stats in jest.
when the glass is half full you can see it from both sides,
I did that to stir the Elecraft kool aide crew.
Having contested many many years in my past life, I dont own
3 - K3 radios because they are losers, and nope I am not in the
class of any one who qualifies for WRTC. not even close,
and at 75 I am not progressing any longer, I am on the slipping
side of downhill.
73 Merv K9FD
Merv
Now we entering the arena of stats can tell you whatever you want them to tell
you!
In fairness only one of the top teams was a US team (I think) and 3 of the top
15 were US. Maybe radio choice for the Europeans is more to do with ICOM et al
possibly having a more direct sales and support presence in EU versus Elecraft
which is via local distributors and possibly requiring the gear to return to
Cal for repair. Just a guess ....
I think the WRTC leader role for the Boston/NE one had more US teams placing.
I’m sure a story exists around home team advantage.
I can only reiterate that anyone who participates in WRTC has to be pretty
awesome and I wish I had 1% of their skills!!
Stats are fun.
Paul Gacek
On Mar 29, 2020, at 8:50 AM, K9FD <[email protected]> wrote:
SO lets see, we are saying that 50 percent used Elecraft, and out of the top 3
no one did,
and most who used Elecraft were in the bottom.
So was it the radio or the operator?
If you look at it from one point of view, loosers used Elecraft..
Merv K9FD, and I own 3 - k3 radios so not biased.
Wasn't my subject line. But I'll see your four and raise it to five: Elecraft,
Flex, Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu.
Wes N7WS
On 3/29/2020 6:55 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
I find you mention the big 3, but it is really the big 4.
Mike va3mw
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:28 AM Wes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
FWIW. I took a cursory look at the top 10 to see what they were using.
You have to get to 5th place to find a pair of K3s. Sixth and 7th places use
one K3 and something else for the second radio.
So four out of 20 radios were K3s.
Also of interest 6 out of 10 used WinTest with 4 using N1MM+.
Wes N7WS
On 3/29/2020 2:50 AM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
If you follow the link you can see what radios the 50+ WRTC 2018
participant teams used.
Lots of K3.
http://wrtc2018.de/competition/finalscores.php
Paul
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog
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