Again, out of curiosity.  How do you define "better"?

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On 03/29/20 11:56, [email protected] wrote:
Hi Tony


Any of the top-of-the-line radios from Flex, Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood
have significantly better SSB performance than the K3.


Each of my six stations has two radios, usually a K3 and a "not K3,"
usually a Yaesu FTdx5000. During CW contests our "run" operators
usually favor the K3, during SSB contests our "run" operators NEVER
favor the K3.


73
Frank
W3LPL



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' 
<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

Hi Frank,
I agree with what you said about CW rigs and lightweight rigs for traveling. 
The K3 on SSB sure has its faults. What say you on the top SSB rigs?

Also, since no Dayton and the idea of a contest that weekend is a good idea. 
But maybe we should consider some kind of virtual hospitality suite so we can 
have a beer or two plus chat.
N2TK, Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

This is by far not an unbiased survey. Teams that travel on airplanes to get to 
WRTC will be strongly biased toward light weight radios such as the K3. 
Operators who do not travel by a irplane will be biased towards radios with 
much better SSB performance.


73
Frank
W3LPL

----- Original Message -----

From: "K9FD" <[email protected]>
To: "Paul Gacek" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:26:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

I agree Paul, and my comment was to play the stats in jest.

when the glass is half full you can see it from both sides,

I did that to stir the Elecraft kool aide crew.

Having contested many many years in my past life, I dont own
3 - K3 radios because they are losers, and nope I am not in the class of any 
one who qualifies for WRTC. not even close, and at 75 I am not progressing any 
longer, I am on the slipping side of downhill.

73 Merv K9FD
Merv

Now we entering the arena of stats can tell you whatever you want them to tell 
you!

In fairness only one of the top teams was a US team (I think) and 3 of the top 
15 were US. Maybe radio choice for the Europeans is more to do with ICOM et al 
possibly having a more direct sales and support presence in EU versus Elecraft 
which is via local distributors and possibly requiring the gear to return to 
Cal for repair. Just a guess ....

I think the WRTC leader role for the Boston/NE one had more US teams placing. 
I’m sure a story exists around home team advantage.

I can only reiterate that anyone who participates in WRTC has to be pretty 
awesome and I wish I had 1% of their skills!!

Stats are fun.

Paul Gacek

On Mar 29, 2020, at 8:50 AM, K9FD <[email protected]> wrote:

SO lets see, we are saying that 50 percent used Elecraft, and out of
the top 3 no one did, and most who used Elecraft were in the bottom.
So was it the radio or the operator?
If you look at it from one point of view, loosers used Elecraft..

Merv K9FD, and I own 3 - k3 radios so not biased.


Wasn't my subject line. But I'll see your four and raise it to five: Elecraft, 
Flex, Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu.

Wes N7WS

On 3/29/2020 6:55 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
I find you mention the big 3, but it is really the big 4.

Mike va3mw


On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:28 AM Wes <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
FWIW. I took a cursory look at the top 10 to see what they were using.

You have to get to 5th place to find a pair of K3s. Sixth and 7th
places use one K3 and something else for the second radio.

So four out of 20 radios were K3s.

Also of interest 6 out of 10 used WinTest with 4 using N1MM+.

Wes N7WS


On 3/29/2020 2:50 AM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
If you follow the link you can see what radios the 50+ WRTC 2018
participant teams used.
Lots of K3.

http://wrtc2018.de/competition/finalscores.php

Paul
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog
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