Clay,
If you're not a serious SSB contest competitor this thread has no relevance to your experience or needs. Try SSB contesting at the highest levels of competitiveness and you'll soon become aware of the important performance differences among modern transceivers. 73 Frank W3LPL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clay Autery" <k...@montac.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:21:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three... Again, out of curiosity. How do you define "better"? ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 03/29/20 11:56, donov...@starpower.net wrote: > Hi Tony > > > Any of the top-of-the-line radios from Flex, Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood > have significantly better SSB performance than the K3. > > > Each of my six stations has two radios, usually a K3 and a "not K3," > usually a Yaesu FTdx5000. During CW contests our "run" operators > usually favor the K3, during SSB contests our "run" operators NEVER > favor the K3. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tony....@verizon.net <tony....@verizon.net> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:40 PM > To: 'donov...@starpower.net' <donov...@starpower.net>; > 'Elecraft@mailman.qth.net' <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] The Big Three... > > Hi Frank, > I agree with what you said about CW rigs and lightweight rigs for traveling. > The K3 on SSB sure has its faults. What say you on the top SSB rigs? > > Also, since no Dayton and the idea of a contest that weekend is a good idea. > But maybe we should consider some kind of virtual hospitality suite so we can > have a beer or two plus chat. > N2TK, Tony > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On > Behalf Of donov...@starpower.net > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:33 PM > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three... > > This is by far not an unbiased survey. Teams that travel on airplanes to get > to WRTC will be strongly biased toward light weight radios such as the K3. > Operators who do not travel by a irplane will be biased towards radios with > much better SSB performance. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "K9FD" <merv.k...@gmail.com> > To: "Paul Gacek" <w6...@yahoo.com> > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:26:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three... > > I agree Paul, and my comment was to play the stats in jest. > > when the glass is half full you can see it from both sides, > > I did that to stir the Elecraft kool aide crew. > > Having contested many many years in my past life, I dont own > 3 - K3 radios because they are losers, and nope I am not in the class of any > one who qualifies for WRTC. not even close, and at 75 I am not progressing > any longer, I am on the slipping side of downhill. > > 73 Merv K9FD >> Merv >> >> Now we entering the arena of stats can tell you whatever you want them to >> tell you! >> >> In fairness only one of the top teams was a US team (I think) and 3 of the >> top 15 were US. Maybe radio choice for the Europeans is more to do with ICOM >> et al possibly having a more direct sales and support presence in EU versus >> Elecraft which is via local distributors and possibly requiring the gear to >> return to Cal for repair. Just a guess .... >> >> I think the WRTC leader role for the Boston/NE one had more US teams >> placing. I’m sure a story exists around home team advantage. >> >> I can only reiterate that anyone who participates in WRTC has to be pretty >> awesome and I wish I had 1% of their skills!! >> >> Stats are fun. >> >> Paul Gacek >> >>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 8:50 AM, K9FD <merv.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> SO lets see, we are saying that 50 percent used Elecraft, and out of >>> the top 3 no one did, and most who used Elecraft were in the bottom. >>> So was it the radio or the operator? >>> If you look at it from one point of view, loosers used Elecraft.. >>> >>> Merv K9FD, and I own 3 - k3 radios so not biased. >>> >>> >>>> Wasn't my subject line. But I'll see your four and raise it to five: >>>> Elecraft, Flex, Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu. >>>> >>>> Wes N7WS >>>> >>>>> On 3/29/2020 6:55 AM, Michael Walker wrote: >>>>> I find you mention the big 3, but it is really the big 4. >>>>> >>>>> Mike va3mw >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:28 AM Wes <wes_n...@triconet.org >>>>>> <mailto:wes_n...@triconet.org>> wrote: >>>>> FWIW. I took a cursory look at the top 10 to see what they were using. >>>>> >>>>> You have to get to 5th place to find a pair of K3s. Sixth and 7th >>>>> places use one K3 and something else for the second radio. >>>>> >>>>> So four out of 20 radios were K3s. >>>>> >>>>> Also of interest 6 out of 10 used WinTest with 4 using N1MM+. >>>>> >>>>> Wes N7WS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/29/2020 2:50 AM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote: >>>>>> If you follow the link you can see what radios the 50+ WRTC 2018 >>>>> participant teams used. >>>>>> Lots of K3. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://wrtc2018.de/competition/finalscores.php >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> W6PNG/M0SNA >>>>>> www.nomadic.blog >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>>> <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>>>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>>>> va...@portcredit.net <mailto:va...@portcredit.net> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>>> merv.k...@gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>> w6...@yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donov...@starpower.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to tony....@verizon.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k...@montac.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donov...@starpower.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
