And perfect will never occur.  So one best think of adequate.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 6/10/2020 1:42 PM, W2xj wrote:
adequate is not perfect. YMMV

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On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:

In referencing TF.NIST.GOV on page 251, I find it stated;

"When high accuracy is not required, probably and fastest way of comparing the 
frequency of an oscillator to a broadcast standard is the familiar heterodyne or zero 
beat method."

And then on page 253, I find it stated;

" Usually, however, it is difficult to adjust an oscillator to exactly zero beat 
with an HF carrier beyond the ground wave range of the transmitter.  The problem arises 
from rapid fluctuations in the received signal strength and from propagation flutter in 
the received frequency."

References are: THE USES AND LIMITATION OF HF STANDARD BROADCAST FOR TIME AND 
FREQUENCY COMPARISON.  John T. Stanley, NIST.

As I indicated earlier, a frequency accuracy of +/- 1 Hz for ham radio purposes 
is adequate.  Likewise for time accuracy +/- 0.1 second is adequate.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/10/2020 11:52 AM, w4sc wrote:
How much doppler shift should be expected?

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From: W2xj
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 5:31 PM
To: w4sc
Cc: wes_n...@triconet.org; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3(s) main oscillator calibration

the problem with WWV is doppler shift.

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On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:27 PM, w4sc <w...@windstream.net> wrote:
I like the zero beat WWV method.  Used it in the Navy to calibrate / PM the 
10MHz frequency standards aboard ship. Requires the least amount of test 
equipment!  If you can receive WWV on 20MHz to calibrate the K3/K3S, all the 
better,

Using a frequency counter I would think  0.1Hz resolution and attending 
accuracy would be in order, plus an accurate time base in the counter, GPS 
locked,,, or oven-ized, on all the time reference ,,, ect.

Ben W4SC


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