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> On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> And perfect will never occur.  So one best think of adequate.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
>> On 6/10/2020 1:42 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> adequate is not perfect. YMMV
>> 
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>>>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In referencing TF.NIST.GOV on page 251, I find it stated;
>>> 
>>> "When high accuracy is not required, probably and fastest way of comparing 
>>> the frequency of an oscillator to a broadcast standard is the familiar 
>>> heterodyne or zero beat method."
>>> 
>>> And then on page 253, I find it stated;
>>> 
>>> " Usually, however, it is difficult to adjust an oscillator to exactly zero 
>>> beat with an HF carrier beyond the ground wave range of the transmitter.  
>>> The problem arises from rapid fluctuations in the received signal strength 
>>> and from propagation flutter in the received frequency."
>>> 
>>> References are: THE USES AND LIMITATION OF HF STANDARD BROADCAST FOR TIME 
>>> AND FREQUENCY COMPARISON.  John T. Stanley, NIST.
>>> 
>>> As I indicated earlier, a frequency accuracy of +/- 1 Hz for ham radio 
>>> purposes is adequate.  Likewise for time accuracy +/- 0.1 second is 
>>> adequate.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/10/2020 11:52 AM, w4sc wrote:
>>>> How much doppler shift should be expected?
>>>> 
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>>>> From: W2xj
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 5:31 PM
>>>> To: w4sc
>>>> Cc: wes_n...@triconet.org; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3(s) main oscillator calibration
>>>> 
>>>> the problem with WWV is doppler shift.
>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:27 PM, w4sc <w...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>> I like the zero beat WWV method.  Used it in the Navy to calibrate / PM 
>>>>> the 10MHz frequency standards aboard ship. Requires the least amount of 
>>>>> test equipment!  If you can receive WWV on 20MHz to calibrate the K3/K3S, 
>>>>> all the better,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using a frequency counter I would think  0.1Hz resolution and attending 
>>>>> accuracy would be in order, plus an accurate time base in the counter, 
>>>>> GPS locked,,, or oven-ized, on all the time reference ,,, ect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ben W4SC
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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