The Creek Fire was burning through forests that were 80-90% bark beetle kill in mountain wilderness. It is simply not possible to “thin” that. From 2014 to 2018, the number of dead trees in California increased from 11 million to 147 million.
Anyone who thinks there is a simple solution needs to think some more. If you want to help, I already know of five Scout camps with major damage, one in our council, near Big Basin. They will all need donations to rebuild. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood Radio Scouting Chair, Pacific Skyline Council CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Mike Short <ai4ns.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Years of mismanagement contribute to the fires. Forest Service and states > have not culled dead trees, allow logging, and not done controlled burns to > reduce the fuel. Building homes in canyons with Santa Ana winds also does > not help. Until there is a serious change in how forests are managed, this > will be a normal occurrence > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 22:06 David Gilbert <ab7e...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I think you have a skewed view of the situation, probably understandably >> so given your own vulnerability to that fire. I can find tons of media >> information specifically on the Bobcat Fire with almost daily datelines >> when I do a Google search, and I know from personal experience with >> wildfires here in southern Arizona that agencies have to prioritize >> literally on an hour by hour basis how and where they deploy scarce >> resources. Slurry bombers are about the only effective countermeasures >> in rough terrain (and even then only partially), since sending fire >> crews into those areas is pure and simple murder. >> >> Here where I live (dry grass, dry trees, hilly terrain) the aircraft >> (slurry bombers, helicopter water drops) try to slow the fires while the >> fire crews mostly just dig in their heels and try to save the homes ... >> and there isn't much point in them doing so until the homes are actually >> threatened. The fire that whipped through this area in 2011 burned >> EVERYTHING within about 50 feet of my home, but the fire crews wouldn't >> back off and they saved the house. If you can find the Google Earth >> satellite pictures from July 2011 you can see what I mean (my .kml info >> is available from QRZ.com page) ... everything is black except for a >> cone where my house is at the pointed end of the cone. >> >> With 4 million acres on fire in California within a short period of time >> I think it's unrealistic of you to think that there will ever be enough >> resources in reserve to cover everything in a situation like that ... at >> least not when you would like. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> >> >> >> On 10/14/2020 1:52 PM, Al Lorona wrote: >>> So I read not only K6XX's report, but the entire issue of the Jug. >> http://nccc.cc/jug/2020/09sep2020.pdf . I am completely floored by the >> complete destruction of Bob's place. Bob, I don't know if you're a >> believer, but I for one am praying for strength for you, my friend. >>> >>> My impression of the Bobcat fire here in Los Angeles, which got to >> within 2 miles from me and is still burning 38 days later, is similar to >> Bob's: fire agencies simply let it burn for days without any urgency >> whatsoever, letting it advance into backyards in the northernmost reaches >> of Arcadia and Monrovia before kicking into firefighting high gear at the >> last possible second. In strangely similar fashion, the news media never >> really reported with any energy on the Bobcat fire. I still can't >> understand the almost total ignoring of this fire for so long. So I >> resonated with Bob on this point, and for this reason I refute W6GJB's >> claim that resources assigned to southern California deprived northern >> California of the same. It seems that *nobody* had the resources they >> needed. What a shame. >>> >>> Hang in there, Bob. Please let us know if you've started a gofundme page >> or something like that. >>> >>> Al W6LX >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ai4ns.m...@gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
