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On 10/14/2020 20:39, Mike Short wrote:
Years of mismanagement contribute to the fires. Forest Service and states
have not culled dead trees, allow logging, and not done controlled burns to
reduce the fuel. Building homes in canyons with Santa Ana winds also does
not help. Until there is a serious change in how forests are managed, this
will be a normal occurrence

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 22:06 David Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:

I think you have a skewed view of the situation, probably understandably
so given your own vulnerability to that fire.  I can find tons of media
information specifically on the Bobcat Fire with almost daily datelines
when I do a Google search, and I know from personal experience with
wildfires here in southern Arizona that agencies have to prioritize
literally on an hour by hour basis how and where they deploy scarce
resources.  Slurry bombers are about the only effective countermeasures
in rough terrain (and even then only partially), since sending fire
crews into those areas is pure and simple murder.

Here where I live (dry grass, dry trees, hilly terrain) the aircraft
(slurry bombers, helicopter water drops) try to slow the fires while the
fire crews mostly just dig in their heels and try to save the homes ...
and there isn't much point in them doing so until the homes are actually
threatened.  The fire that whipped through this area in 2011 burned
EVERYTHING within about 50 feet of my home, but the fire crews wouldn't
back off and they saved the house.  If you can find the Google Earth
satellite pictures from July 2011 you can see what I mean (my .kml info
is available from QRZ.com page) ... everything is black except for a
cone where my house is at the pointed end of the cone.

With 4 million acres on fire in California within a short period of time
I think it's unrealistic of you to think that there will ever be enough
resources in reserve to cover everything in a situation like that ... at
least not when you would like.

Dave   AB7E




On 10/14/2020 1:52 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
So I read not only K6XX's report, but the entire issue of the Jug.
http://nccc.cc/jug/2020/09sep2020.pdf .  I am completely floored by the
complete destruction of Bob's place. Bob, I don't know if you're a
believer, but I for one am praying for strength for you, my friend.
My impression of the Bobcat fire here in Los Angeles, which got to
within 2 miles from me and is still burning 38 days later, is similar to
Bob's: fire agencies simply let it burn for days without any urgency
whatsoever, letting it advance into backyards in the northernmost reaches
of Arcadia and Monrovia before kicking into firefighting high gear at the
last possible second. In strangely similar fashion, the news media never
really reported with any energy on the Bobcat fire. I still can't
understand the almost total ignoring of this fire for so long. So I
resonated with Bob on this point, and for this reason I refute W6GJB's
claim that resources assigned to southern California deprived northern
California of the same. It seems that *nobody* had the resources they
needed. What a shame.
Hang in there, Bob. Please let us know if you've started a gofundme page
or something like that.
Al  W6LX


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