“Subject to Commissions review and approval” is not authority to do more than warn. It has no legal value, except a higher priority complainer.
And has still yet to be reviewed by a court for legality. In the meantime, it means nothing more than a warning. No fines, no removal of license; no penalty. That being said, if I need to operate below say 7125, is head north about 30 miles to an entirely different set of laws; simply add ve7/ to the call. 😉 73, Rick nk7i > On Oct 26, 2025, at 1:31 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> On 2025-10-26 4:18 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: >> >> And ignoring popular beliefs, the ARRL has ZERO enforcement ability or >> skills; that is the SOLE domain of the FCC (in the US). And >> more, whilemuch of the US government is shut down, enforcement seems >> unlikely; it’s sparse in the best of times. >> The ONLY thing the ARRL can do, inform the FCC of their findings. Exactly >> like anyone else. ARRL is given preferential treatment, but no special >> permissions. A note from them, means nothing legally. > > As part of reorganizing ARRL's Official Observers into the FCC Amatuer > Auxiliary, the memorandum of understanding gave the Amateur Auxiliary > limited delegated enforcement authority. Those enforcement actions are > subject to Commission review and approval but even a notification of > apparent violation by AA can have a negative impact on a licensee. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > >> On 2025-10-26 4:18 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: >> And ignoring popular beliefs, the ARRL has ZERO enforcement ability or >> skills; that is the SOLE domain of the FCC (in the US). And more, while >> much of the US government is shut down, enforcement seems unlikely; it’s >> sparse in the best of times. >> The ONLY thing the ARRL can do, inform the FCC of their findings. Exactly >> like anyone else. ARRL is given preferential treatment, but no special >> permissions. A note from them, means nothing legally. >> I’ve previously suggested that transit frequency be one of the contest >> required score form, filing elements (computer scoring by those running the >> contest) for cross check. >> Out of class or out of band/s, NO contest score. Make all that time and >> effort pointless, which should cause more attention to the legal aspects of >> operating. >> Ditto for DXing (longer duration contesting?); out of class/band, that >> contact doesn’t count towards any award. >> Both are easily entered into the ADIF file (or Cabrillo if still used). >> 73, >> Rick nk7i >>>> On Oct 26, 2025, at 12:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV via Elecraft >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Actually, ARRL's Amateur Auxiliary (Official Observer corps as >>> reconstituted a few years ago) *should* be doing that kind of >>> thing. Unfortunately, the ARRL CEO is so incompetent that he >>> provides little effective leadership so what ARRL does is done >>> poorly and without concern for the membership. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> ... Joe, W4TV >>> >>>> On 2025-10-26 3:23 PM, David Gilbert via Elecraft wrote: >>>> Yes, that's annoying, but you're assuming that the FCC has both the >>>> inclination and the resources to pursue violations like that. I think they >>>> have shown for a long time now that they have neither. >>>> Dave AB7E >>>>> On 10/26/2025 12:12 PM, Al Lorona via Elecraft wrote: >>>>> If I were the FCC, I would camp out on or near 7.125 MHz on Saturday >>>>> during the CQ WW Phone contest and start logging the calls of all the US >>>>> operators calling DX stations there. (If you call on that frequency on >>>>> LSB, you're illegally transmitting out-of-band.) >>>>> Just between the 1st and 7th innings of the baseball game yesterday, I >>>>> logged 30 stations who did exactly that: they all called IP9C on 7,125.5. >>>>> I'm sure there were many more. >>>>> I have no idea whether the scoring committee disallows contacts made this >>>>> way, or whether that's even checked. Certainly, those stations should not >>>>> get credit for the illegal contacts. >>>>> W6LX said that. >>>>> Al W6LX >>> >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
