WA6HHQ: >I discussed the issue of the missing IMDDR3 numbers (Third Order Dynamic Range) with Michael Tracy at the ARRL a couple of weeks ago. I expressed my strong concern that they had dropped these from the review data and were only posting a footnote showing how to calculate them from the IMD level and MDS. I pointed out that we, and many others, use the IMDDR3 numbers as the primary IMD Dynamic range comparison between rigs and that the IP3 numbers were not as useful for receiver comparisons, since they can artificially be inflated by turning on the attenuator, or making a receiver have low sensitivity (deaf).
I agree completely. It was very surprising they omitted the IMD numbers from the tables yet included them in the bar graphs at the very front of the article. >Also, the multi-level IP3 numbers were in direct response to requests to the ARRL from several members of the advisory group that Rob mentions below. I know W8JI who is on the group believes IP3 is simply a subject of much confusion and abuse. My guess is that one of the European VHF guys in the group lobbied for this. But I agree it's mostly a meaningless theoretical number better represented by measuring MDS and IMDDR3 separately. >Michael Tracey and the ARRL test lab are above reproach in my opinion. I agree completely but I wish more of his objectivity were shared by some of the folks writing the QST reviews. I feel some of Sherwood's criticisms are completely justified, but this is of course not Michael's responsibility. Rob also has his own axe to grind at times so you have to take some of what he says with a grain of salt. I had an Orion for 4 years and *never* heard the AGC hang artifact even though I spend 90% of my time on 160 meters where there are plenty of BIG QRN crashes. Rob can also go a bit overboard into conspiracy theories about QST advertisers. I don't buy that. It sounds like ARRL responded appropriately. I also found it humorous that W1ZR in the very same issue was describing IMDDR3 and its importance yet it was omitted in the FT-2000 tabes! :-) None of us is perfect. On the plus side, I commend ARRL for gradually moving toward more realistic testing...such as posting 2 kHz spaced measurements in the QST articles rather than simply burying the data in an obscure graph in the Expanded Test Reports. Same for TX signal purity (keyclicks and phase noise). They're getting better but IMHO they need to tone down the fluffiness in the QST articles. My personal favorite is G3SJX in RSGB's Radcom. It would almost be worth the cost of joining RSGB just to get his reviews. BTW Sherwood measured the SDR-5000's IMDDR3 at 5 kHz as 96 dB. It's going to be a real horse race to see if the K3 may top that but if not it should be very close. 73, Bill W4ZV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com