Don and Al...

Thanks for the explanations.  Yes, this does indeed make sense.  Finally that 
mystery is behind me.

phil


On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Al,
> 
> To look at it another way - look at the S-meter to observe the band noise 
> level, and then back off the RF gain until the S-meter is steady at that same 
> S-meter reading.  Of course, this should be done at a spot in the band where 
> no signals are present.
> 
> That is a quick way to determine the optimum setting for the RF Gain 
> consistent with the greatest receiver dynamic range and one does not have to 
> listen to the constant band noise clutter.
> 
> The other option is to just run with "all knobs full right" and put up with 
> listening to the band noise when there are gaps in the signal level.
> 
> Be aware that the AGC Threshold will also have a great effect on the amount 
> of band noise heard in the audio.  If the Threshold is set too low, the 
> receiver will go into AGC action on only the band noise.  I use an AGC 
> Threshold setting of 008 just for that reason (I know the default is 005, but 
> I think that is too low).
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> Alan Bloom wrote:
>> On most radios, the term "RF Gain" is actually a misnomer.  The control
>> should really be called "IF Gain".
>> 
>> The way most HF receivers work is that turning down the "RF Gain"
>> control simply applies a DC voltage to the receiver's AGC circuitry.
>> For example, if an S9 signal causes the AGC voltage to rise to 1.23
>> volts, then when you set the RF Gain control to place 1.23V on the AGC
>> line, the S meter will read S9 even when no signal is present.  In that
>> case, signals below S9 do not change the gain or S meter reading.
>> Signals above S9 cause the AGC/S meter to rise as before.
>> 
>> Turning down the RF gain control causes the receiver to sound less noisy
>> because the IF gain is limited to some maximum value.  If you set it
>> right you can still hear the weak signals (taking advantage of the human
>> ear's dynamic range) but you don't have to put up with so much noise.
>> 
>> On the noisy low bands I generally set the RF Gain control so that the S
>> meter reads nearly constant when no signals are present, bouncing up
>> slightly only on the biggest noise peaks.
>> 
>> Al N1AL
>> 
>>  

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