> X-Originating-Ip: [208.255.75.3] > From: MIKE OSSIPOFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The circularity problem > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:27:05 PST > > > I just want to emphasize that the example is a natural circular > tie. With a natural circular tie, there's no really right > outcome, and no lesser-of-2-evils problem to avoid, because > there's no definite lesser-evil compromise. > > And even with a natural circular tie, the better methods, > including JITW & Condorcet(EM) & Schulze's method, and > probably several new ones, make it possible for a majority > to prevail without drastic strategy. > > But really the most important situations are those with a CW, > where there's a lesser-of-2-evils problem to get rid of. > These situations, the ones that really matter, are the ones > where the best methods most stand out. > > Mike > > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 26 05:32:02 1999 > >Received: from sol.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (sol.physik.TU-Berlin.DE > [130.149.161.180]) > > by emmi.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA14078; > > Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:31:29 +0100 (CET) > > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >Received: from laser2.physik.TU-Berlin.DE by sol.physik.TU-Berlin.DE; > (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/19Sep97-0140PM) > > id AA08081; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:31:21 +0100 > >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) > >Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:30:40 +0100 > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >From: Markus Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: The "problem" with circularity (was Re: Reply to Blake > > Cretney) > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >Dear Steve, > > > >you wrote (24 Feb 1999): > >> JITW guarantees that no candidate can be > >> made into a spoiler against his/her will. > > > >The Condorcet Paradox says that there are situations in > >which _independently on who is elected_ there is always > >a spoiler. These are the so-called "cyclic" situations. > > > >JITW cannot get rid of this problem. > > > >Example: > > > > 40 voters prefer A > B > C. > > 35 voters prefer B > C > A. > > 25 voters prefer C > A > B. > > Candidate A prefers candidate B to candidate C. > > Candidate B prefers candidate C to candidate A. > > Candidate C prefers candidate A to candidate B. > > > >Independently on who is elected, there is always > >a spoiler. JITW cannot guarantee that no candidate > >can be made into a spoiler against his will. > > > >Markus Schulze > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
