On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:00 , Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

Setting aside the possible uses of proxies within formal power structures -- which is actual practice in corporations and really ought to receive more attention -- "formal parties," if organized traditionally, have been tried over and over again. They are subject to certain hazards, and ultimately they succumb to them. But hope springs eternal.... hey, let's roll that stone up the hill again.

Are you saying that FAs would not succumb to the old hazards? I think it is probable that many FAs would drift towards more formal structures, strict leadership and rules (especially if the ideology that they promote makes that has a positive attitude towards such control).

I don't exactly know if you propose the FA structure to be adopted as the main working method or if you only want to keep the formal rules (of the political machinery) such that FAs are allowed to operate. You used "FA" to name the method but maybe you didn't intend to ban the use of more formal associations too. Or maybe the intention is just to establish a structure that is parallel (or "sequential") to the traditional political decision making process.

I think the goal of keeping the political structure responsive to the needs of the citizens and keeping the discussion process productive is a good goal (I think this is what you are looking for). There is always space to improve the methods that we use to govern ourselves. There are people claiming that the system they have or promote is the ultimate best system, but probably the ideal system has not been developed yet, and possibly never will be.

The FA model (and DP) sets some positive targets and may have some positive impact but I'm not sure it would work so well that it would automatically lead us to a better future. There are many risks, like getting infiltrated with "the old politicians" as soon as it gets some power. Maybe there will be trials and fine-tuning of the theory.

Juho



                
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