On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:05 , Michael Allan wrote:

Rankings are determined by votes incoming, not votes held.  This is
crucial.  (It was only decided a couple of releases ago, so there may
inconstencies in the docs.)

Ok, this seems to bring the model closer to what Kristofer Munsterhjelm proposed.

Large cycles will tend to be *structurally* un-stable - they will tend
to fall apart and not re-form.  But I doubt they will be *dynamically*
unstable.

I'm quite confident that the possibility of continuous cyclic changes in continuous elections (due to cycles in the group opinions; A preferred over B, B preferred over C and C preferred over A) exists since that is a very general property of voting methods. The problem may not appear often and it may be that the cyclic behaviour won't last long for other reasons, but in theory that risk exists.

You're pointing to a tension
between voting for competence in communication, on the one hand, and
competence in a specialty, on the other.

I don't see any bad tensions. I just thought that it would be good to state it clearly if the proposed method is not intended to be just an election method but also has another target of creating a permanent communication structure among the voters. The change makes the evaluation criteria and questions and comments quite different.

What happens if two candidates
vote for each other (tight cycle), in order to formalize a kind of
partnership between them?

If the incoming votes are the ones to be counted then both will get more votes. Sounds like a good strategy, except that the one with less original incoming votes will now get as many incoming votes as the other one.


Here's one more potential problem case. If some candidate receives votes from too many directions then some of the voters should switch to not voting this candidate directly (to make the tree structure less flat). If many of them have about the same number of incoming votes they may be reluctant to change their vote since they'd prefer other voters making the move first and thereby letting them stay closer to the root of the tree (instead of ending up close to the leaves).

Juho





                
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