Good Afternoon, Juho

re: "The first thing in my mind would not be to limit contacts
     between legislators and lobbyists but to limit too heavy
     bindings, maybe most notably monetary dependencies.  One
     could limit e.g. second jobs, right to move to some
     commercial position, financing of political campaigns."

That would be roughly equivalent to throwing a chunk of meat into a pack of dogs and telling them they can't eat it. We have no shortage of rules now. They are gutted, twisted and ignored to the point they are useless.

My country is doling out hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to 'needy' industries. If you think that isn't the cause of an immense feeding frenzy among lobbyists and government insiders, you don't know how our government currently works.

When we elect corrupt public officials by corrupt methods, when we put party above probity, we are foolish to imagine we can eliminate dishonesty by sanctimonious assertions. It might be possible to conduct our government without limiting contacts between legislators and lobbyists, but to do so we must devise a means of selecting the best of our people as our representatives rather than the dregs of our society.

(If you think me harsh, provide a justification for the over 100 BILLION DOLLARS of pork demanded by our legislators before they would pass a (supposedly) emergency bill to bail out institutions whose greed, mismanagement and outright theft caused the economic disaster engulfing all of us.)


re: "Radical changes are often problematic since people are not
     able to anticipate all the implications of the changes, and
     they often are too idealistic or optimistic."

I don't agree. Radical changes often have an adverse effect on the people because those who lead the charge for change use their influence to establish norms that gratify their interests. The American Revolution was unusual because its nominal leader had no aspirations beyond the stated aim of the revolution.


re: "Sometimes fast changes work quite well. That typically
     requires that there is some well adopted model that serves
     as a basis for the change.  One could think e.g. Estonia
     that regained its independence in 1991. Although times were
     different before the second world war the fact that there
     was some old model available surely helped a lot."

I agree, but we must also note that Estonia's loss of independence was externally imposed. When the shackles that bound it disintegrated, it could resume as much of its former model as it wished.


re: "It is also possible that there is a recently developed
     common basis for the change but certainly these changes fail
     more often."

Again, I agree. The failures flow from an unwillingness or inability to harness our own natures. Morality is an acquired trait. It must be nurtured and encouraged. Systems that assume it will flourish under adverse conditions are doomed.


re: "When looking at Fascists in Italy and National Socialists in
     Germany they eventually got quite wide support among the
     citizens."

That's the point!!! Partisanship is dangerous. As I once wrote in another context, the most destructive words in any language are:

  I BELIEVE!!!


re: "One key point in how they got to that level was that they
     used all means, including violence, to silence the
     opposition. From this point of view it is maybe important to
     make sure that all opinions will always be given sufficient
     space to breathe."

Are not the cited instances of Fascism, National Socialism and Communism enough to show that in a partisan environment it's impossible to guarantee "all opinions will always be given sufficient space to breathe." However much you may advocate partisanship, you can not deny its potential for extreme and destructive manifestations.

Fred Gohlke
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