On 9/28/12 4:11 PM, [email protected] wrote:
A > B

Choice C comes along.

C may - head to head ---

1. Beat both
C > A
C > B
2. Lose to both
A > C
B > C
3.  Beat A ---- BUT lose to B
C > A > B > C

Thus, obviously, a tiebreaker is needed in case 3.
Obviously perhaps Approval.

i.e. BOTH number votes and YES/NO Approval votes.

Obviously much more complex with 4 or more choices.
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ANY election reform method in the U.S.A. has to get past the math challeged appointed folks in SCOTUS.

i.e. ANY reform must be REALLY SIMPLE.

well, there is Ranked-Pairs and there is MinMax. for a cycle involving only 3 candidates, both will elect the same candidate and the same candidate as Schulze (which appears to be the "best" method according to a few different criteria, but is *not* simple).

the methods may diverge when there are 4 or more candidates in the Smith set, but i would bet that in a public, governmental election using a ranked ballot decided by a Condorcet compliant method, that this would never ever ever happen. a cycle will rarely happen and a cycle greater than a simple ring of 3 is far more unlikely.

nonetheless, if it were to happen, any of these methods will resolve the election unless it truly is a tie, like 3 groups of voters of exactly the same size all voting A>B>C (33%), or B>C>A (33%), or C>A>B (33%). this is comparable to a simple two-person FPTP election with a dead tie (and we actually had that in Burlington for the Democratic mayoral caucus last December: there were 4 candidates and 3 rounds and the last round came out to be a 540-540 tie). then the law needs to deal with that with either another election or with drawing lots or perhaps a legislative tie-breaking decision. but that would be no different regarding a perfectly symmetrical Condorcet cycle.


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