Is there a quota or gender requirement or both requirements? - If we assume that the quota rules are not needed since both genders will get seats also otherwise, is it ok if one grouping gets 3 women and the other one 2 men? - Is it ok if the second seat goes to a male candidate of some grouping and the fifth seat goes to a female candidate of the same grouping?
Juho On 6.2.2013, at 11.47, Peter Zbornik wrote: > James, Jonathan, > > I need that the quoted-in people are quoted-in in such a way, that the > proportionality of the election is not significantly disturbed. > > I think Rosenthiel's approach has the following insufficiencies: > If I elect five women, and then increase the number of elected seats > until two more men have been elected, then we might end up with a > situation, where > a] one coalition of voters get all the seats (the easiest example is > when we elect two ordered seats, one man and one woman) - i.e. the > resulting list is not a proportionaly ordered list > b] one coalition of voters get all the qouted-in men - i.e. the > resulting list has no proportionality between gender. > > Best regards > Peter Zborník > > > 2013/2/6 James Gilmour <[email protected]>: >>> Jonathan Lundell > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:40 PM >>> There is, I think, an underlying misconception here, namely >>> that STV order of election can be interpreted as a ranking of >>> level of support. It's not, in the general case. >> >> Jonathan is absolutely right. If you want lists ordered by relative >> support, you need to adopt a procedure like that recommended by >> Colin Rosenstiel and used by some UK political parties when they have to >> select ordered lists for closed-list party-PR elections. >> >> First you use ordinary STV-PR to elect the required total number of >> candidates. Then you conduct a series of STV-PR elections, each >> for one vacancy less than the preceding election. The unsuccessful >> candidate takes the lowest vacant place on the ordered list. >> Continue until you run-off between the top-two for the second-last place. >> >> For full details, see: >> http://www.crosenstiel.webspace.virginmedia.com/stv/orderstv.htm >> and >> http://www.crosenstiel.webspace.virginmedia.com/stv/ordstvdt.htm >> >> The second one includes a constraint for candidate's sex. >> >> James Gilmour >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 130205-0, 05/02/2013 >> Tested on: 05/02/2013 23:49:22 >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
