Thanks Gavin for the response. I do have the NDA permissions with MOSIS and TSMC which got me started down this rabbit hole.
It sure would be nice if someone had developed the Electric support files for TSMC180 to share them with MOSIS so it can be used by others in the future. Unfortunately with our course's short timeline, we won't have time to write/troubleshoot getting TSMC's Design Rules implemented in Electric. For undergraduate programs without access to the commercial software (like ours), it mostly eliminates the fabrication opportunity; The only SCMOS process through MOSIS (C5N) runs on a 26 week turn around and all our seniors will have graduated before the chips would get back. Hoping I'll have time in the future to get TSMC running on Electric... On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 12:21:06 AM UTC-5, Gavin wrote: > > It might not be that helpful, but there was a previous discussion about > how a LEF file could not be used with Electric [ > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/electricvlsi/t33vaOMVwtk/discussion ] > and how all technology information most likely had to be entered manually > into the wizard [ https://www.staticfreesoft.com/jmanual/mchap08-11.html > ]. > > The tsmc180 plugin is unattainable. The technology information should be > attainable but are confidential and not available to the general public due > to NDA: > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/electricvlsi/iWx9jwT0LK4/K_4wQxxaAQAJ > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/electricvlsi/plugins$20containing$20commercial$20design$20rules$20are$20secret$20because$20of$20NDA%7Csort:date/electricvlsi/_HSev8zvoKo/hDQTElM-AQAJ > > For the technology information and more information on the NDA, you would > likely have to contact TSMC [ http://www.tsmc.com/english/contact_us.htm > ], or if using MOSIS service or EUROPRACTICE service: > > https://www.mosis.com/vendors/view/tsmc/documents > https://www.cmc.ca/en/Help/Licensing/MOSISDesignKitsandLibraries.aspx > http://www.europractice-ic.com/nda_TSMC.php > > On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 12:12:47 PM UTC-6, Kim Cornett wrote: >> >> Wondering if you resolved this. I'm in the same position with TSMC 180nm >> >> On Friday, July 25, 2008 at 3:31:18 AM UTC-5, Scott L. wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am a student trying layout a design to be fabricated through MOSIS. >>> I would like to use Electric to do my layout, but my university has >>> everything set up only for Cadence tools. I really only need electric >>> to do some hand layout, place and route my standard cells, and create >>> my schematics. I will use Calibre to do my DRC and LVS work (it uses >>> GDS II streams so it is not a big deal to import these from >>> Electric). >>> >>> My design will use commercial standard cells from ARM on IBM's 65 nm >>> process (CMOS10SF - to be exact). I have already signed non- >>> disclosure agreements with ARM and IBM to have access to this >>> information. >>> >>> I do not want to reinvent the wheel (nor do I have the time/energy) to >>> modify a technology library with all the new rules for the technology >>> file and do all the work to import the ARM standard cells into >>> Electric so I have a few questions... >>> >>> 1) Has anyone already updated the technology file to use Electric with >>> the IBM 65 nm library? >>> 2) Has anyone worked with importing commercially available standard >>> cells into Electric? I have the LEF files and everything that Cadence >>> requires to use the cells. >>> >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Scott >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Electric VLSI Editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
