Rico, Functionally that's the same, sure. But I think the idea is that it should be a setting instead of a theming hack. Users should be able to say, "I want to display running indicators" and flip a switch to do so. On Sep 20, 2012 10:44 AM, "Rico Tzschichholz" <ric...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Setting the size to 0 is fairly the same as having them disabled. So I > don't really see the need in such an extra key, although adding one is > easy. If you insist please file an elementary-tagged bug. > > Rico > > Am 20.09.2012 01:49, schrieb Daniel Foré: > > Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave like > > this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along. > > > > But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the > > option to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair considering > > we're in the very beginnings of this transition period. > > > > Rico, would it be terribly difficult to add a key to enable/disable the > > running indicators instead of relying on setting their size to 0? > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com > > <mailto:webe...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in > > excited anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data > > projected onto the windshield via HUD? > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s...@mtate.me.uk > > <mailto:s...@mtate.me.uk>> wrote: > > > > In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no > > difference between an open and closed app. Computers are fast > > enough now (esp. with Luna) that you don't really notice the > > extra delay when you open an app rather than restoring from > > Minimize. > > I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open them, > > and for the system (not the user) to handle memory management. > > > > However, these are things that need not be addressed now, and I > > will go into in more detail (probably with a blog post) closer > > to the time. > > > > For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it moves us > > towards this vision. > > > > SamTate > > > > > > On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa <ttost...@gmail.com > > <mailto:ttost...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_ > > expose for app windows is available (e.g. long hover over > > dock icon exposing running screens). There are useful apps > > that don't support tabs and, even for those that do, you may > > still want to run multiple windows with different parameters > > (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings). > > Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is a bit > > involved today. > > > > --ttosttos > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré > > <dan...@elementaryos.org <mailto:dan...@elementaryos.org>> > > wrote: > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of > > running app indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel > > for how people who have been using Luna for a while feel > > about it. Namely, is this something people are > > complaining about because they expect it and aren't used > > to it yet, or is this a real problem? > > > > Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't used > > them for almost a year now (When Gala was just a dream > > haha). Luna is so good on resources that it hardly > > matters if an app is open or not and you can easily see > > if something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview > > since minimize isn't part of our regular workflow. But > > it also has the added benefit of saving a few pixels on > > the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is > > hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I think > > keep the dock small is still important). > > > > If we do decide that running app indicators are > > important, would it be terribly difficult to make this a > > switch in the desktop plug? We may need to ask Rico to > > add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want to > > have this update for every user on the system (since the > > theming is currently stored globally). Because I do > > think that there are probably a significant amount of > > people for which the running indicators just aren't > > terribly useful in Luna and it could still remain as the > > default. But hey, that's why I am asking! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Daniel Foré > > > > elementaryos.org <http://elementaryos.org> > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: > > https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > Post to : > > elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : > > https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: > > https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : > > https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > Daniel Foré > > > > elementaryos.org <http://elementaryos.org> > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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