On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Max Goldstein <maxgoldste...@gmail.com>

> Respectfully, the discussions around components keep happening because
> people start them. Asking "how do I have stateful components with
> closure/nesting" falls prey to the XY problem, and also misses a lot of the
> philosophy of language design that Evan has talked about, most recently in
> his elm-conf keynote <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSjbTC-hvqQ>. To
> paraphrase, Elm is a young language and we're more concerned with doing
> things right for the future than making a good language today. Another key
> quote from his status updates: *choose not to block*. Going around and
> demanding new language features that fit your style of code is not helpful.

FWIW, I appreciate Peter's questions, and I don't interpret "What am I
missing?" and "Why not have...?" as demands. I like Evan's approach to
language change and anticipate it will lead to a better Elm. As we gather
the batch of problems that will lead to insight, I think the user stories
and context around them are also important.

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