Dan Villiom Podlaski Christiansen wrote:
>> I think Eric wanted to have Option/Alt be Meta which clashes with many
>> national key bindings on Mac (I know the problem from German).
>
> I'm Danish but use the English keyboard. I need the option modifier for
> æøå“”‘’€™… and so on. I believe it's wrong to assume that a ‘simple
> subset’ will suffice. If people are able to use simple key bindings,
> they will also use complex, eventually, and be baffled when they fail to
> work.
Aquamacs has the option to have Option as Meta except for some
language-specific keys e.g. "Meta & Finnish". I like this option the
best (although I don't use it).
> Actually, I think the way Carbon Emacs did this is nice; use the default
> (ugly, unconventional) Emacs bindings out-of-the-box. It might be worth
> it to add an option somewhere to allow M-Q, C-X and so on to behave like
> everywhere else.
>
> Emacs *is* confusing and unconventional; it has always been that, and
> will probably always be. I believe it will be much better to adapt Meta
> to behave more like command than to remove Option; it's an important key.
I would say the die-hard Emacs users can configure their Emacs any way
they want to - including Cmd-as-Meta - but it makes Emacs more
approachable to have it obey basic behaviour of other applications on
the platform. Emacs has left the way of being unconventional when it
acquired menus that can be used with a mouse ;-)
Actually I am using Esc to invoke Meta and Option for the national
characters. I started using Esc for Meta a long time ago when working
over modem lines with bad terminal emulations.
>> No, its the Enter key, which is mostly like the Return key but not
>> exactly (on a Mac). You can remap the right Enter key to be Alt with the
>> DoubleCommand utility. I had to do this for ages until Apple fixed it on
>> the Core2 MacBooks (and broke the F-Keys in the process :-(
>
> Of course that's the one :)
>
> How about adding a preference to bind the Enter key to something? Most
> people don't use it anyway
Talk to Apple ;-( I don't know what bit them to put this funny key on a
laptop keyboard in the first place. Then they offered an option to remap
some keys with Tiger (or was it Panther?) but not the Enter key. I have
been using additional Tools to do that from be beginning.
Cheers
Robert
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