In case it is useful, here is Achim's post:

From: Achim Gratz
Subject: Re: [O] Stable releases
Flags: replied, seen, list
Date: Sat Aug 22 07:44:14 2015

Thomas S. Dye writes:
> I do have a technical question that you or someone else on the list
> might be able to answer for me.  When I downloaded the Babel languages
> from melpa just now, the elpa version of Org mode was also downloaded
> and installed, even though I didn't ask for it.  Why is this?

Although you don't say which package you tried, I would guess that the
"org" package is specified as a dependency, likely with some minimum

> Can it be disabled? Must the elpa Org mode be installed and activated
> in order for the Org mode packages to work?

>From the point of package manager anything installed from the outside
doesn't exist.  You can fake that in various way, for instance by
creating a package directory "org-21991231" and putting an org-pkg.el

(define-package "org" "21991231" "Fake Org package for dependency resolution" 

in it.

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Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation:

Achim Gratz writes:

> Adam Porter writes:
>> I've had the same problem, I have to manually delete the extra org
>> package now and then.  I wonder if a dummy package would prevent
>> package.el from reinstalling it...
> Yes it does and I've provided instructions on how to do that quite some
> time ago on this list.
> Regards,
> Achim.

Thomas S. Dye

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