> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:38:08 +0300 > From: Jean Louis <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > > My e-mail was not about the GNU policy. I also did not address it to you > Eli. In fact I was very clear that I support whatever decision will be > made by GNU. > > I am sorry to hurt your feelings, yet it was you who accepted obviously > something so suspicious that is contrary to whatever you are trying to > impose there. If you wish to handle things privately, then you could do > so with the developer right? > > My e-mail was not about GNU policy, but about the obvious lack of > integrity on the list: somebody submitted the LLM generated patch, and > then self-certified it, and you accepted it. And it is obviously not > possible to verify that self-certification. > > No matter how much you may try to squeeze me to put on "moderate", it > doesn't change the fact that it was weird. So moderate as much as you > wish. God thanks everyone can have their own website and exercise speech > on other places.
What was the purpose of that message (and this one)? You point to various people by their names, you hint that they might lie or should not be trusted, you say that there's something "weird" going on in Emacs maintenance. What's the purpose of this? And why do you think you have a right to post such ad-hominem attacks publicly in the first place? Yuan is a valuable member of the Emacs development team. He developed one of the most important features Emacs gained during the last years, and continues to develop and maintain it ever since. What reasons can we possibly have not to trust him when he says that only the commit log message was produced with LLM's help? Especially since Yuan is not a native English speaker, so his desire to have help in expressing himself in English can be easily understood. Why should we trust him less than you or anyone else here? If you contend that we should build this community on mistrust, then I must reject that. IME, communities based on mistrust and suspicion don't hold long, they collapse and disappear. So at least as long as I'm one of the maintainers, we will trust our team members that they answer our questions truthfully, as long as we don't have good reasons to think otherwise. Not the other way around. In any case, discussing the trustworthiness of people is not appropriate here (or on any Emacs-related list), and will not be tolerated. --- via emacs-tangents mailing list (https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-tangents)
