When software goes wrong it can almost be perverse.

I can offer some guidelines for converting or exporting Emailer files to 
a new email client or to one of the archive utilities.

1. These things take a lot of memory. Only two programs should be 
running: Emailer and the program to which you are exporting. Give each as 
much real memor - RAM, not virtual memory - as you can.

2. Turn off all scheduled retrievals of email. Disable schedules in 
Emailer. You can't add to the database while you are exporting form the 
database. If you are importing to another email client, turn off 
schedules in it, too.

3. To the extent you can, do it in batches, not all at once. The ability 
to do it in batches depaneds upon your destination software.

4. Disable screensavers and other CPU-consuming utiilties and toys. Give 
the computer all of the resources you can.

5. Be patient. Be very, very patient. Most export routines use 
AppleScript. It isn't fast, and when it purges memory it really, really 
isn't fast.

6. Compact your emailer DB before you start. Do this AFTER you have 
disabled mail retrieval.

Lee Hinde may want to chip in here; he's done a more recent, larger 
conversion...

Using these principles, I moved a 277 MB emailer database to Entourage. 
It can be done.

Jim DeWitt

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wrote on 7/31/03 2:15 PM -----

>I've been silent for the last month or so. My problem with multiple 
>emails and temporary incoming was never fixed, despite help from many 
>on the list including you, Chris.  I just accepted the problem after a 
>while and continued to delete the DS_Store files, the dupe emails and 
>the temp incoming files that wouldn't leave.
>
>I'm sorry to hear that anyone else is having this problem, but relieved 
>to finally have  some validation. I've been using CE since it was first 
>introduced, and I'm on my 6th or 7th mac since my b/w classic.  I 
>stopped posting my struggle with this same problem when I seemed to 
>have exhausted all the remedies list members suggested.
>
>Not only was the problem never solved, it escalated somehow about a 
>week and a half ago. I got a sudden freeze, and ever since, emailer has 
>defied every fix I tried. A few times I got it to stay open long enough 
>to export my addresses, thank goddess, and a few times it actually 
>received a few emails from one of my addresses before freezing up, but 
>basically, it has been dead for ten days.  Yes, I've rebuilt and 
>reinstalled--two or three times at least.  From running on my G4 
>desktop, I moved if first to my new PB, then I even took my beige G3 
>out of mothballs . . . it crashed every time.  And the havoc it's 
>caused is forcing me now to reformat all my HDs and reinstall 
>everything.
>
>I've been intending to post one last S.O.S., and I guess this is it.  
>At this point, I have a database (in numerous editions, one for every 
>rebuild or reinstall) of about 70MB or 8000 emails.  Over the last 
>month I've tried everything to convert or translate it:
>Importing into Eudora, Mail, Outlook Express--none of which was 
>successful, because CE has to to be running for them to work;  
>Emailchemy 1.5, which froze after 287 emails; MailConverter 2.5.5, 
>which also needed CE; and Mail Convert 2.2.4, which  ran the emails 
>together and seemed to retrieve more symbols than words.
>
>At this point I'm looking for a service bureau or mega-expert that I 
>can pay to have these file salvaged. I am not asking anyone on the list 
>to volunteer, unless they will accept payment.  It's worth $100 and up 
>to me--I've already got a few hundred hours invested in it.
>
>Hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I'm past trying new fixes. I'm 
>just too exhausted.  Many thanks again to all those who've tried to 
>help along the way,



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