>Family 1 are ISP's where you need to use their modems (or ADSL link to 
>access their SMTP server (like Wanadoo of France, or Libertysurf). There, 
>SMTP auth does not work, I have the choice of emailer custom settings (0 
>and 1 work) and I can use the replyto address I like, which permits to 
>send messages from home with an office replyto address (quite handy)

Sounds like they may be doing IP authentication. If you tell me one of 
the mail servers in question, I may be able to verify that they in fact 
do not support SMTP Auth (compared to just not supporting the type that I 
put into Emailer)

>Family 2 are those ISP that supply their own smtp server, accessible 
>through the isp of your choice (like mac.com using the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>server for outgoing mail, or like laposte.net). There, I need SMTP Auth, 
>need to set Emailer custom settings to "1" and need to set my replyto 
>address on their server

In my book, this is acceptable for email providers, but NOT for ISPs. 
Mac.com is ok to do this because they are providing email only, and as 
such should rightfully be able to block any mail traffic that isn't 
directly related to mac.com (either coming from or going to). But some 
ISPs do this, and it is a really crappy thing to do. What is worse is 
ISPs that do this AND block port 25 traffic to all other mail servers. 
Those ones basically force you to use one email address and only one 
address, and I don't know too many people these days that only have one 
email address.

>Does anyone know a family 3 type ISP where I could connect from the isp 
>of my choice, where I can use of a replyto address different from my own 
>on their server (like using my office address)? I assume SMTP Auth would 
>be required but Custom settings would be set to "0"

There are a bunch of ISPs that will do this. However, the SMTP Auth 
version of Emailer is less than ideal for this setup. You can't choose 
what info to use for the authentication. It will always use the POP login 
username and password. That means, to do this with Emailer, you have to 
set up accounts that use the POP login that match your SMTP server, but 
have a different reply address. It would mean setting up extra accounts 
just for sending email.


By the way, you should ALWAYS have the Custom Settings set to 1. There is 
no reason to have it set to 0 any more, and doing so will either have no 
effect, or keep you from using the mail server. When set to 0, Emailer 
will use the info in the Email ACCOUNT field (ie: the POP user and 
server) as the mail from ID. This is incorrect by today's standards and 
many ISPs will reject a message that does that.

When set to 1, Emailer uses the info in the Email ADDRESS field. That is 
the correct behavior by today's standards, and is what all other email 
clients do. It is what ISPs and mail servers expect.

So set the Custom Settings to 1, and leave it that way. If you are using 
the SMTP Auth version of Emailer, you don't even need the Custom Settings 
patch installed at all, as I set that version of Emailer to use the 
ADDRESS field by default (the Custom Settings patch can still override 
it).

-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>

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