On 5/11/2012 12:10 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:
> Gentle persons:
>
> <...>
>
> Given the stated commitment of the LinuxCNC developers to LTS releases 
> of Ubuntu, the age of 10.04LTS, and the apparent lack of any RTAI 
> roadmap indicating when kernel 3.+ will be supported, has a 'position' 
> been formulated on the disconnect that exists today and likely will 
> exist for some time to come?
>
> It would be great if other work---PREEMPT_RT, Xenomai, etc---end up 
> making this a moot point but I was taught (my first employer paid for 
> it and I have a yellowing certificate suitable for hanging to prove 
> it!) that good project management does not include praying for a 
> miracle :-)
>
> I'm just saying....
>
> Regards,
> Kent

So far, none of the responses has addressed my question---what do we do 
if the RTAI work doesn't get extended to version 3 of the Linux kernel 
by next year when Ubuntu 10.04LTS reaches its end of support? I might 
conclude we don't know.

I just skimmed the RTAI mail list archives going back a year and the 
only message concerning upgrading to version 3 I found, which 
incidentally included a followup "...we LinuxCNC'ers need it for kernel 
3.2..." reply from Sebastian Kuzminsky, went unanswered.

I didn't find encouraging information rummaging around Adeos sites and 
the last 18 months of their mail-list archives either. Curiously, under 
http://download.gna.org/adeos/patches/v3.x/ there exist only 
subdirectories for arm and powerpc. What's up with x86? Did things 
happen in the development of version 3 of the Linux kernel that make the 
supposedly easy* port not so easy? Can it be that the PREEMPT_RT 
developments have caused people to lose interest in the micro-kernel 
approach?

Since both RTAI and Xenomai 2 (as well, the micro-kernel branch of the 
promised Xenomai 3) depend on Adeos, I'd feel more comfortable to see 
actual development going on.

I hope we're not in a cleft stick.

Regards,
Kent

*Not my word. I saw the "easy" appellation in somewhere in the Adeos 
docs. Kernel-level stuff is all hard for me.

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