Am 26.02.2013 um 18:15 schrieb Chris Radek:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 05:09:42PM +0100, Michael Haberler wrote:
>>
>> all messages should wind up in syslog anyway
>
> I don't agree with this. We have an odd application that is pretty
Talk that one out with Seb first, please.
I think we should have the option to log everything, and through a singel
channel; not a file here, a syslog there, a console print over there, and an
on-screen popup thrown in - I'm sorry, enough is enough.
That isnt 'improving a code smell', but then I am fully aware perceptions vary
widely on what constitutes a desirable architecture, or an improvement for that
matter.
-Michael
> much like other user applications, but is partly implemented in the
> kernel for technical reasons. If not for this implementation
> detail, I doubt we would be thinking about syslog at all. My web
> browser and office applications don't log anything to syslog,
> because the errors they give are for the user to consume, not the
> sysadmin. Syslog is where errors for the sysadmin go.
>
> Many (most?) of linuxcnc's errors are for the user ("Can't do G1
> without Feed rate set"). These kinds of errors do NOT belong in
> syslog. They need to be localized and then shown on the screen,
> just like "Can't get to that website" in my browser and "12:72 is an
> invalid time" in my spreadsheet.
>
> Some other errors, like the realtime delay errors, MIGHT belong in
> syslog in addition to being shown to the user. But I am not sure
> what added value that gives us.
>
> Who is our audience here? A perusal of the mailing list and forum
> will show that people simply don't see error messages that don't pop
> up on the screen.
>
> For any change in error handling, to me, the primary goal to have in
> mind is to solve the problem of "linuxcnc won't start and I can't
> tell why". We currently have a popup in that case, but it's full of
> incomprehensible garbage. Changing/improving the smell of the code
> is a goal I care about WAY less than that, but if that's step 1, so
> be it!
>
>
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