On 5/16/2013 9:28 AM, Daniel Rogge wrote: > >> I am more interesting in doing things better, and more efficiently. If >> doing things the "Fanuc way" is an improvement, fine. If not, lets not >> go there. >> > Fanuc, HAAS, etc. have decades of experience and teams of very bright people > looking into how and why to do things the way they do them - please don't > discount this. Sometimes they end up with their hands tied by some > historical limitation, but more often than not the control seems 'clunky' > because it addresses corner cases than haven't been considered by the end > user. I'm not saying there's no room for improvement, but before we reinvent > the wheel it would be worth reviewing how the major players have addressed > the same issues. > > Rogge > > > >
>>Fanuc, HAAS, etc. have decades of experience and teams of very bright people >>looking into how and why to do things the way they do them - please don't >>discount this. I agree to a point. I'm not discounting anything that Fanuc, Siemens, Haas, etc does. I used to work for Siemens and I know some of the stateside developers who worked on the more recent Siemens CNC controls (prior to the last major re-org).. The thing about copying someone else's methods is that you and I will never know all of the logic behind the how and why something was implemented. We can guess, but that is about it. Also, we will also never know the level of silliness that went into a decision to implement a certain control scheme. Some of the decisions that Siemens made had little to do with logic. I've also worked with Fanuc, and Fanuc controls, and I sense that not all that Fanuc does or has done has always had solid reasoning behind their decisions. You don't need to work with Fanuc long to figure that out. Also, Fanuc is loosing market share right now, and that has been a trend for quite a while.. They are widely thought to be simply too expensive. The last time I worked with a Fanuc tech on a machine, the cost was just over $300 per hour since he had a Fanuc App Engineer on call at the same time. No one thought that was close to reasonable. I would take a hard look at what other players are doing besides Fanuc.. It is not hard for me to imagine Fanuc being a minority player in the new CNC marketplace in 5 years. Dave Cole ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers