Hi:
     Besides any rules of thumb for estimating current, one is always looking 
for the highest current that still allows stable erosion without exceeding the 
carrying capacity of the fluid that is carrying away the debris from the site 
of the erosion.  If one exceeds that, then the gap gets contaminated and sparks 
jump from electrode to debris and then make a deeper spot in the mold cavity.  
And there are conditions where what amounts to re-cast can occur on the face of 
the electrode, building up points and other unwanted features on the electrode. 
 I have seen this plenty of times on carbon electrodes.  So-called graphite 
electrodes are a mixture of carbon and copper (90/10 ranging up to 50/50) 
sintered to make a solid.   One popular trade name is Poco.
    
     Only on rare occasions did I work with copper electrodes.  They are more 
expensive and are somewhat of a pain to machine as copper is gummy.  Poor 
surface finishes can be improved by polishing copper electrodes but it needs to 
be done carefully without imbedding non-conductive abrasives in the copper.  At 
one time the Europeans and Japanese preferred copper electrodes and the 
Americans preferred carbon.  Machining carbon IS messy if you are messy.  If 
you are tidy then it's only somewhat messy.  

     I am seeing questions and suppositions posted here from people who seem to 
have never run an EDM.  Questions are good but knowledge provided by others is 
not a substitute for the experience of running one.  This is a different art 
form than many people in metal working are familiar with.  When you can, go run 
an EDM; hang out with the people who do run them.  With many metal cutting 
operations, there are lessons from one machine that transfer to another.  There 
are commonalities between a bandsaw and a milling machine i.e. surface feet per 
minute of the cutting tool and chip loading.  Not so with EDM.  This is a 
different kind of animal.

Pete Gruendeman

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On Thu, 3/3/16, TJoseph Powderly <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EDM gap control (Control parameters)
 To: "EMC developers" <[email protected]>
 Date: Thursday, March 3, 2016, 12:47 AM
 
 50A/in^2
 very crude rule fro Gr/St ( graphite to steel
 )
 
 the 'current
 density' is NOT linear
 maximum is near
 400amperes even if area is yds^2
 becasue the
 process is not controllable at extreme currents
 and is seemingly high at very low areasĀ  50
 amps supplied to 1mm dia 
 bras tube
 and 12 amps 'draw' seen on meter
 
 and that rule is only for
 roughing ( creating net form )
 not for
 finishing
 
 during roughing
 the 'frontal area (Fp) is the governing factor
 in finishing, the Peak to valley of the craters
 is the governing factor
 for engraving
 graphite or copper is commonly used
 the
 choice is oftern determined by experience
 
 experience of... do i want a
 dirty shop and cheap electrodes ( graphite)
 or a clean shop and expensive electrodes (
 copper)
 
 hth
 tomp
 
 On
 03/03/2016 01:38 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 
 > One thing I have always felt needed to be
 asked, but don't recall 
 > seeing it
 discussed, is when doing a sinker edm to imprint a carbon
 
 > mold like I've seen pix of, like
 engraving a relieved signature, is 
 >
 there an optimum current per square, either in cm2 or in2 to
 design 
 > the process to so it functions
 best? And in terms of wear on the 
 >
 shaped carbon electrode, is there a best current per square
 in terms 
 > of the metal removed vs the
 carbon wasted that will prolong the 
 >
 electrode life vs metal removed? I've seen other
 processes where 
 > optimizing one is not
 optimizing the other. Or is there a better 
 > material to make the electrode from?
 
 
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