On Thursday 11 June 2020 14:51:38 Reinhard wrote: > On Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020, 18:57:56 CEST Curtis Dutton wrote: > > I'm a RIP guy on all > > of my machines and run master. > > So what is wrong with that? > I guess, that's almost true for most users of linuxcnc > > On Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020, 18:57:56 CEST Curtis Dutton wrote: > > no matter > > when the next release occurs, it is going to be painful for most > > users to upgrade.
I'll argue on that point. I find it totally unreal that most shop owners won't spend the sheckles to buy a router and maybe a switch to put the network into every machine in the building. Security is in how you do it, and I've not been touched in 20 some years. Yet I can update any machine on my locale network everytime the buildbot makes a new version available to apt or synaptic. > That taken for true, I believe, that there are many users, that won't > upgrade. That is their problem as they are missing out on the new capabilities being built into LinuxCNC on an almost daily basis. > On Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020, 18:57:56 CEST Curtis Dutton wrote: > > Users need to be accustomed to frequent releases and frequent > > upgrades if not just to get them used to doing it. > > Really? And if they really NEED that frequent updates, are they > willing to pay for it? > I'm sure, Andy and others already spent lots of hours in extra release > issues and I'm not sure, that this effort is appreciated by "default" > users. Here is one old default user that appreciates that, a lot. And I wouldn't have a milliseconds problem with an annual small fee to pay for buildbot electricity and server bandwidth. But I also expect to have this msg ignored like all the rest of my offers of arm hardware for the buildbot have been. > Most (if not all) developers are volonteers, who spend their leisure > time on project. Time is very very precious - for everybody. > So why waste that precious time on shady subjects like release? I would not call it shady. Milepost marker perhaps. > May be academic people think different - don't know. Sometimes I get > the impression, that they don't know/care about the value of time. > > To me, linuxcnc looks like an academic research on "how to extend > obfuscation by being usable anyway" - so why not put manpower on that > issue? If the source would be readable, more developer would likely > jump into the game. > With projects like this, no one "assigns" manpower, and effort is put out far more on "scratch that itch" stuff. And some of it is amazing stuff. And they deserve more flowers than they are getting. Count your blessings and say Thank You. > > cheers Reinhard Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
