Hi, 

FYI, I got interested in the conversation and ended up finding this repository 
on GitHub:

https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM

The code for the master is released as a GNU General Public License version 2. 

Regards,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Webster <r...@vehiclemods.net.au> 
Sent: March 1, 2022 7:42 AM
To: EMC developers <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC is in Debian!

> From my understanding Beckhoff is very open regarding the master (who  
>even does not need a special hardware,  when driven by an RTOS) and are 
>very restrictive when it comes to the slave (where a ASIC / FPGA is 
>needed in any case)

This was also my understanding when I read the licensing requirements. Heck 
they said they would even share source code with you if you were building a 
master...
I have posted on the ethercat section of the forum calling for technical guys 
to get this done 
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/45239-lets-get-ethercat-into-the-linuxcnc-distribution-need-technical-people-to-help

Please send me an email at ether...@vmn.com.au if you can help with the tech 
stuff.

Rod Webster
*1300 896 832*
+61 435 765 611
Vehicle Modifications Network
www.vehiclemods.net.au


On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 21:12, Rainer Stelzer <r.stel...@sgs-robotics.de>
wrote:

> Hi Gene,
> > So once you've bought the controller, there is no other restriction. 
> > And I assume that royalty is 2x per axis, once for each end of the cable.
>
> No, they don't charge twice.
> Part of marketing a Fieldbus-System is to make it widely accepted in 
> the industry, so Beckhoff (and others like Siemens with Profinet) 
> has/have to find a balance between protection and  easy/low cost 
> accessibility.
>
>  From my understanding Beckhoff is very open regarding the master (who 
> even does not need a special hardware, when driven by an RTOS) and are 
> very restrictive when it comes to the slave (where a ASIC / FPGA is 
> needed in any case)
>
> Makes also sense from commercial point of view, because in a typical 
> system there are much more slaves needed that masters.
>
> > Or can one receiver handle more than 1 axis with acceptable latency?
>
> A slave in EtherCat's daisy chain topology has an input and an output 
> Interface. (the biggest difference to most other ethernet based
> fieldbusses)
>
> The incoming stream is shifted out with 1 bit delay to the output.
>
> At 100Mbit/s -> 10ns delay added up to each slave in the chain.
>
> The difference between one slave 3axis servo pack and three single 
> axis servo amps is ~20ns.
> But to synchronise the output, all slaves have to wait for the full 
> frame received.
>
> Even on a 10 axis system this does not even come close to the total 
> frame time.
> Not to mention the jitter caused by a (soft)RTOS
>
>
> cheers
>
> Rainer
>
>
>
>
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