On 1/8/25 09:57, Bari wrote:
What are the levels below hobby grade?

I am surrounded by broken systems like Fanuc and Siemens. Their programmers/tech can't even make their own systems operate properly and they won't offer us their source.

For example we have a few new robots that they recently installed and programmed, yet they crash into each other and the materials they interact with near daily. Just lucky or incompetent factory tech staff?

The latter Bari.  My observation's over my 90 years pretty well confirms that.  Having observed the level of factory service while chasing electrons for a living for 75 years, some of the stuff I've found and fixed is downright scary.  As a CET and broadcast engineer, some things I have done are magic to the EE's I've encountered.  If they make a mistake, its generally a doozy.  Some of mine has been too.

The biggest problem with factory service techs is if they are good, they aren't paid enough so they quit and start their own company, because stuff they design to work, are overhauled by an MBA who actually knows zip about the electricals, checking the BOM and over-ruling the designers choice of parts. If it still works when he has subbed cheaper parts, its the exception that proves the rule.





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