[email protected] wrote: > Hello everyone, > I would like your opinion (based both on your knowledge > of the iso25/iso45001 and personal experience and view) > on the "certification\testing lab anomaly". > The issue is this: if one entity (let's call it the "LAB") > offers both to consult and fix technical problems AND to > test and verify the product after it has been fixed, > don't we have an inherently unhealthy situation? > Also,if the LAB offers a "fixed price" for a specific > job(i.e. $XXX to get certification to Y), doesn't this > too make a potentially unhealthy situation? > > Don't get me wrong. I'm not accusing anyone and I believe > they all mean well and make a honest living, > but is this 100% kosher? I'm not familiar with the various > standards governing the internal workings of the labs, > but do they cover this issue? > thanks for your opinions > > moshe valdman
Well, from my own experience, 1. As far as safety is concerned, the only "consulting" and "fixing" that I've had done was srictly in reference to the standard to which being tested. I can't remember an instance where a safety test engineer in an NRTL spcifically told me to do "such and such" outside of a standard. There were instances of "closr the vents up", "use screening", etc., that were in reference to some deviation from a written standard. Anything else, I've been told very clearly that it would be imposing a bias that borders on the illegal. They are to "test", "report failures", and "review". Nothing else. This is specifically stated in the CFR that covers the approval of an NRTL by OSHA (the CFR of which I can't quote right now). Is this what you're referring to? If it is, then I see no problem. 2. As far as emissions is concerned, I have quite another experience and thankfully so. There's nothing like standing in a lab at 2:30 in the morning being told the product has failed and no help. But, clearly, any "investigation" performed by the lab is, as far as I'm concerned, equivalent to "reporting a failure" in the safety lab. And, having a fix that is repeatable in a NRTL, or, by others at a lab in a different site is also fine with me. ******************************************************* ------------------------------------------------------- The comments and opinions stated herein are mine alone, and do not reflect those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------- *******************************************************
